Have you encountered engine problems when the car stalls in traffic jams or the engine speed is unstable? There may be several reasons for these malfunctions. It is recommended to start searching for a problem with diagnostics, and if this is not possible, then first perform a check, and only then change the faulty parts.
AvtoVAZ installs the same type of engines on modern Lada cars (Kalina, Granta, Priora, Largus, Vesta, Niva or XRAY), so the solution to problems for all these cars is similar.
The idle speed fluctuates, the engine stalls when moving (on the move) or at a standstill, the reasons may be the following:
- The engine air filter is clogged.
- The spark plugs are faulty.
- High voltage wires are faulty.
- Ignition module/coils are faulty.
- The idle air control (IAC) or its electrical circuits are faulty.
- The throttle position sensor (TPS) is faulty or the throttle assembly is dirty.
- The mass air flow sensor (MAF) is not working.
- The oxygen sensor (OS) or circuits are faulty.
- There is insufficient pressure in the fuel rail.
- Compression in the cylinders is low.
- The exhaust system is leaking.
- Air leaks through the crankcase ventilation hoses and the hose connecting the intake pipe to the vacuum brake booster.
- The cylinder head gasket is damaged.
- The timing belt or tension roller is worn.
- The camshaft cams are worn.
- The valve timing is off. Check the alignment of the marks on the crankshaft and camshaft.
- The engine control unit (ECU) or its circuits are faulty.
Have you encountered floating engine speeds? What was the cause of the malfunction? We solve such engine problems in the comments or on the forum. Let us remind you that along with unstable speed there may be other problems, for example, the engine is difficult to start.
This article will talk about why the car stalls while driving. The reason for this phenomenon may be the most banal, but you will get a lot of troubles from such “behavior” of the car. In addition, the engine may stall at idle speed. This is not very pleasant; the engine seems to start, but after a while it stops working. It is possible that the engine does not want to start if its temperature is close to operating temperature. The operating temperature of the engine is about 90 degrees. And there can be many reasons, but we need to consider the main ones.
Most common reason
It is worth paying attention to the fact that all reasons can be divided into several categories. Why does the car stall while driving? The reason can be both trivial and complex. If we are talking about injection engines, then very often the regulator that is responsible for the idle speed fails. It is he who supplies the required amount of air to the fuel rail. The idle air control is a stepper electric motor, which opens and closes the channel through which clean air passes into the mixture formation ramp. So, first of all, you need to make sure that the idle air control is working properly. To do this, you need to crank the crankshaft with the starter while simultaneously depressing the gas pedal. The engine starts, but the number of revolutions constantly changes. There is an obvious failure of the IAC - the engine stalls when you press the gas. And the most effective way to get rid of such a problem is to completely replace the element. You will need to install a new idle air control valve. On VAZ cars this is done literally in a matter of minutes.
Lada Largus won't start
Lada Largus (2019). The starter turns, but the engine does not start
There can be quite a few reasons for this behavior of a car. The main ones are listed below
Human factor
: You forgot to turn off the anti-theft, which blocks, for example, only the fuel pump. The exhaust pipe is clogged. Kind people put a rag or a potato in it, or maybe you just drove into a snowdrift - there are many options. The exhaust pipe must be freed.
All of the above, in general, is not a breakdown, and can be solved in no time. Now let’s look at the reasons associated with a technical malfunction: If the starter turns very slowly, then the cause may be the oil in the engine that has thickened in the cold. Or maybe it’s a discharged battery after a long stay or its terminals are heavily oxidized. In this case, the voltage of the on-board network may drop so much that the engine control unit refuses to work. Well, everything is clear here: the oil should be filled according to the season, the battery should be charged or replaced. Something has frozen - water in the gas line, diesel fuel in the tank or filter. Look for a warm box! The fuel pump is faulty. This is easy to verify, unless you are trying to start the car near a busy and noisy highway. If the environment is quiet, then a sensitive ear can detect the absence of the characteristic buzzing of the fuel pump during starter operation. In the best case, poor contact in the circuit is to blame; in the worst case, you will have to replace the pump. The flywheel crown rotates. This sometimes happened on cars of previous years, up to the VAZ-2109. You can hear that the Bendix is engaged with the ring, and the ring rotates on the flywheel with a squeal. The flywheel is about to be replaced.
The starter does not engage with the ring
. Reason: wear of parts, chipped teeth, etc. When you try to start, you hear grinding teeth. Get ready to replace the ring gear or flywheel.
Bendix stuck
. Whether its drive failed, or the Bendix itself, it doesn’t matter. You can hear the starter motor spinning at high speeds, but there is no further attempt to crank the engine. Get ready to repair or replace the starter itself.
Failure of the ignition system in gasoline cars
. We check everything - spark plugs, coils, wiring, etc. The glow plugs of a diesel car do not work. The problem may be in the control unit, as well as in the power relay. The candles themselves should also be checked - you will have to tinker with this.
Timing belt shattered
. It’s easy to feel: it’s easy for the starter to turn. If you're lucky (the pistons don't meet the valves), it's enough to replace the belt; if not, then half the engine.
The timing belt jumped several teeth, disrupting the correct valve timing. Again, in the best case, you will need to return the belt to its place, but in the worst case, you will face expensive repairs. Increased resistance to rotation of the crankshaft: scuffing on shafts, bearing shells, parts of the cylinder-piston group, deformation of shafts. Check if the engine can be cranked when pushing the vehicle with the manual transmission in top gear. With an automatic transmission, you will have to try to turn the engine using the bolt securing the auxiliary drive pulley. If the engine can be turned over relatively easily, then the search for the cause will need to be continued.
Throttle problems
Quite often, the reason that the engine starts to stall is the throttle valve itself. It is quite possible that the air filter has worn out, so the entire surface of the damper inside is dirty. To fix this breakdown, it is enough to clean the damper completely from the inside. Please note that after thorough cleaning the problem may persist; the engine still stalls when you press the gas. In this case, you need to make sure that the position sensor is in good condition. This sensor is a variable resistor. It is installed on the damper axis. Moreover, maximum wear is observed in the extreme position (corresponding to idle speed). If it fails, it must be completely replaced. The cost of the part is quite low, and replacement occurs literally in a matter of minutes. But it is possible that the engine begins to stall, despite the fact that all sensors are in perfect condition.
Starter not working
After turning the key to the “Engine Start” position, the starter begins to rotate the car’s flywheel and within 5 seconds, under normal temperature conditions, the Largus engine should start. If the starter does not work, some elements may have failed:
- Low voltage in the on-board network - the voltage at the battery terminals must be at least 12V. When the voltage is lower, it is necessary to charge the car battery.
- Faulty contact group of the ignition switch or start relay - after turning the key, power is not supplied to the starter solenoid relay - you can measure the voltage at its contact with a voltmeter. A broken ignition switch or relay needs to be replaced.
- Faulty starter solenoid relay - when 12V is supplied to its contact, the relay does not operate (you cannot hear a characteristic click) and the starter does not turn. The retractor will need to be repaired or replaced.
- Faulty starter - after applying voltage to its winding, the engine does not turn over. The first reason is wear of the brushes; to eliminate the breakdown, it is enough to replace them. The second reason is that the starter winding has burned out, in which case the assembly part needs to be replaced. The third reason is jamming of mechanical elements; to eliminate it, it is necessary to disassemble the electrical part of the starter and the overrunning clutch (Bendex), wash all parts and lubricate them with graphite lubricant.
Some other reasons why the Lada Largus starter does not turn, for example: problems in the wiring or jamming of the internal combustion engine are much less common.
Fuel quality
Always watch what kind of gasoline you fill your car with. In most cases, all of the above symptoms appear as soon as you fill the tank with fuel. Of course, the engine may stall after some time. Therefore, it will be difficult to immediately determine the breakdown. It is also worth paying attention: the reason that the engine begins to stall or stall should always be sought in the gasoline itself. To cure such a “disease”, you will need to completely drain the gasoline from the tank and also replace the fuel filter. Unfortunately, you don’t always buy high-quality fuel at gas stations. Therefore, it is worth choosing one brand of manufacturer that sells the highest quality gasoline. Of course, there are times when the car stalls while driving (the reason for this does not lie in gasoline). Please note that an excessively low cost is the first sign that gasoline is of dubious origin. And pouring it into the tank is equivalent to driving a car at full speed into a pole.
Won't start, alarm doesn't work
Good afternoon This morning it won't start, the alarm has stopped working. When you try to start, you can hear the pump running briefly and the relay clicking under the hood. The radio, interior lights, headlights work. I haven't checked all the fuses in the cabin and under the hood yet. Battery voltage is approximately 12.3 V, measured at a temperature of about - 17. Suspicion for replacing fuses
Yes, check the fuses
You may need to check the battery terminal connections. Clean if necessary.
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Spark plug
To make sure the spark plugs are working properly, you need to unscrew them all, check the gap size, as well as the presence of carbon deposits. And your car stalls while driving. The reason may be hidden in the candles. If there is heavy carbon deposits, but the gap is within acceptable values, it is necessary to clean the spark plug electrodes. But the best way out is to install new spark plugs. In the same case, if the gap is very large, there is excessive wear of the electrode, cleaning will not help, it is necessary to completely replace the set of spark plugs.
Alternative ways to start the engine
You can start a car with problems in the starter/ignition switch system by towing or using a pusher. To do this, you need to turn on the ignition, depress the clutch with the gearbox in second gear, accelerate the car to a speed of 10-15 km/h and release the clutch. If the engine starts, turn off the gear and stop smoothly.
There are situations when it is not possible to push the car to the required speed. In this situation, if the problem is not in the starter winding or jamming of its elements, you can start the car simply by short-circuiting the contacts with a screwdriver or a large wrench. To do this, you need to turn on the ignition and turn off the gearbox. Next, find the starter under the hood, remove the protective rubber casing from the wires and close two large opposite contacts. After the engine starts, open the indicated contacts.
Such actions must be carried out after making sure of your own safety and the safety of others.
Fuel filter
Here is another very common reason why a car stalls while driving. VAZ or foreign car – it doesn’t matter. But this is especially true for older cars. Some drivers simply forget that the car has a gasoline filter. It is located at the bottom of the fuel pump. Of course, if there is dirt in the filter, gasoline will simply not flow into the fuel rail and the combustion chamber will not work. There will definitely be interruptions in the fuel supply. At the same time, by pressing the gas pedal, you turn off the engine. To get rid of this malfunction, you need to remove the gasoline pump and replace the filter. It is also worth considering that the tank itself can cause the filter to quickly clog. Therefore, either replacing the container or thorough cleaning can help.
Tips to make diagnosis and repair easier
To diagnose a malfunction in a Lada Largus car, you may need special tools and devices. If there are problems with the fuel supply, it is necessary to measure the pressure in the fuel rail; for this you will need a special pressure gauge with an adapter. If it is missing, you can unscrew the gasoline supply hose from the rack, lower it into an empty container, turn on the ignition and measure how many liters of fuel the pump will pump in one minute. A working Lada Largus pump pumps approximately one and a half liters of fuel in one minute.
The performance of the crankshaft position sensor can be checked using an ohmmeter - a device that shows electrical resistance. The working sensor has a resistance of about 250 Ohms, and when a piece of metal approaches the sensor, this value should change.
The presence of a spark can be easily checked by removing the high-voltage wire or ignition coil from the spark plug and bringing the contact closer to a distance of 2-3 mm to the iron element of the engine. When starting the internal combustion engine, an electric charge - a spark - will jump between the wire/coil and the motor element. During the procedure, you must use special insulating gloves or tools.
Air filter
The situation is similar as in the case of a gasoline filter element. Please note that the operation and repair of the vehicle must be carried out in accordance with the manufacturer's requirements. After all, you know that a mixture of gasoline and air is supplied to the combustion chamber. Consequently, if any component of this mixture does not enter the fuel rail, the engine will stall. Consider an example of how a motor operates when there is not enough air. Too rich a mixture enters the combustion chamber, causing the spark plugs to flood. At the same time, there is a feeling as if the engine does not have enough air, it is suffocating. Among other things, some motorists who do not know about the principle of operation of an internal combustion engine can cover the inlet pipe with a rag to prevent water from getting into it. It's funny, but this happens.
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Largus will not start, help me make a diagnosis.
Good afternoon, forum members, I’ve encountered a problem that I can’t solve myself (I’ve been studying similar cases on the Internet for 3 days now - to no avail), I’m asking for help, can anyone advise me.
Actually it is given: Lada Largus 2013 (I took a new one) 7-seater, 16-valve engine - K4M, mileage 57,000 km, all maintenance was done on time, the car was used carefully. The following happened: I left it running and with the high beams on, PTF (I was working in the headlights myself) and the interior blowing, after 20-30 minutes I come back, the engine doesn’t work (but it stalled recently - it hasn’t cooled down), I try to start the starter, the engine turns, doesn’t pick up, doesn’t sneezes and spins very quietly, but quickly. I thought it might be a retractor, just in case I checked it - the engine was turning (put it in gear and turned the key - it jerked). What I did next: 1) I removed the terminals from the battery (I thought maybe there was some mistake) and after waiting 5-8 minutes I connected it back. 2) We tried to start it with a pusher. 3) I checked the fuel pump (it sounds like it works when the key is first turned); just in case, the fireman got to the fuel pump itself, removed the hose and, putting the key back in the preliminary position, witnessed a vigorous stream of gasoline. . (further dancing with a tambourine 140 km from home, at 2 am it was decided to finish and get home by tow truck) the search continued in the morning. 4) I tried the spare key (immobilizer) 5) I checked all the fuses, both in the passenger compartment and in the engine compartment (visually without a “continuity”), I also pulled out each relay, examined it and stuck it in place 6) I tried to get the crankshaft sensor, according to I made a mistake and unscrewed the coolant temperature sensor, which I was very unhappy about (I filled everything with antifreeze