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Unlike rear brake pads, front brake pads are replaced more often. This is due to the fact that they bear the main load during braking. Not only the braking efficiency, but also whether they will creak during operation depends on the quality of the brake pads. Do you know which pads are best for Vesta?
Original front brake pads
:
- 8200432336 or 410608481R Renault, price about 1850 rubles.
- 8450108101 "TIIR" JSC, Yaroslavl, price about 1150 rubles.
- 8450038536 "Lada-Sport" LLC, Tolyatti, price about 2750 rubles. (Lada Vesta Sport)
Analogs
:
- TRW - GDB 3332
- Brembo - P68033
- Motrio LS-KTLL
- UBS Performance BP11-05-007
- MILES - E100108
- REMSA - 0987.00
- FERODO - FDB1617
- ASAM - 30748
- HI-Q Sangsin Brake – SP 1564
- LYNXauto - BD5739
- SAT - ST4106000Q0K
- Hagen Sangsin Brake - GP 1564
- Blitz - BB0292
- Galfer - B1G10207412
- ATE - 13.0460-2709.2
- Zekkert - BS-1221
- Trialli PF1402
- and etc.
Original rear disc brake pads
:
- LADA - 11196350208900, supplier "FERROVAZ" GMBH Essen
- 21905350208087 - supplier "TIIR" JSC Yaroslavl
Analogs
:
- TRW GDB1384
- Sangsin Brake SP1709
- UBS - B1105007
- Brembo P23064
The brake pad consists of a metal plate and a special lining made of friction materials. The quality of this material determines the wear resistance, rigidity and friction coefficient of the brake pad. The higher these important parameters, the better.
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Front wheel brake mechanism: 1 — brake hose;
2 — hydraulic brake bleeder fitting; 3 — bolt securing the bracket to the guide pin; 4 - guide pin; 5 — protective cover of the guide pin; 6 — pad guide; 7 — caliper; 8 — brake pads; 9 — brake disc Brake mechanism of the front wheel: 1 — brake hose; 2 — hydraulic brake bleeder fitting; 3 — bolt securing the bracket to the guide pin; 4 - guide pin; 5 — protective cover of the guide pin; 6 — pad guide; 7 — caliper; 8 — brake pads; 9 — brake disc
The pads also need to be replaced when the brake disc is replaced, the linings are oily or have deep grooves, cracks and chips on them, as well as when the linings detach from the base of the pads.
We carry out the work on a flat area, inspection ditch or overpass.
Attention! The brake pads of the front wheels must be replaced only as a set - all four pads. Replacing the pads of only one brake mechanism can lead to the car pulling to the side when braking.
If the fluid level in the hydraulic brake reservoir is at the MAX mark, then before installing new pads, use a syringe or rubber bulb to pump out some of the fluid from the reservoir. This operation must be performed so that when the piston is pressed into the wheel cylinder of the brake mechanism while installing new pads, fluid does not flow out from under the reservoir cap.
We remove the front wheel and securely fix the car on a factory-made support stand. To install new pads, it is necessary to move the wheel cylinder piston as much as possible inside the cylinder.
Other analogues for the front suspension
Name | Price | Buyer Experience |
Motrio LS-KTLL | RUB 1,015 | Medium hardness |
MILES E100108 (China) | RUB 1,208 | Low dust level, do not creak, very hard, wear out the disc |
FERODO FDB1617 | RUB 1,895 | Creak, slight dust formation, beveled surface provides 70% pressure to the disc |
HI-Q Sangsin Brake SP 1564 | RUB 1,285 | They squeak a lot during grinding, soft braking, no dust, a huge number of fakes |
Blitz BB0292 | 1,200 rub. | Small resource, after 2,000 km they begin to creak, easy installation in a regular place |
Trialli PF1402 | 865 rub. | No squeaks, good braking, little dust, easy installation in a regular place |
TSN 2.1.212 | Approximately 300 rubles. | They creak a lot |
UBS Performance BP11-05-007 | RUB 2,335 | Excellent braking, heavy wear at high speeds |
REMSA 0987.00 | 1,650 rub. | Good braking, occasional squeaking |
ASAM 30748 (Romania) | 1,000 rub. | Good braking, strong creaking, high wear resistance |
Hagen Sangsin Brake GP 1564 | RUB 2,079 | Sometimes they squeak, good braking |
Galfer B1G10207412 | RUB 1,920 | Excellent braking in any weather, squeaks are observed at 0 degrees and below, high wear resistance, does not wear out the discs |
Zekkert BS-1221 (Germany) | 878 rub. | Creak in any weather, moderate hardness |
Intelli D204E | 592 rub. | Very creaking, normal braking |
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Insert the blade of a slotted screwdriver into the gap between the piston and the inner brake pad.
Carefully press the piston into the cylinder to its full depth. It is important to prevent damage to the brake cylinder boot. Insert the blade of a slotted screwdriver into the gap between the piston and the inner brake pad. Carefully press the piston into the cylinder to its full depth. It is important to prevent damage to the brake cylinder boot.
Review of manufacturer prices for front brake pads
Catalog number/article | Price in rubles |
Original from Renault 8200 432 336 TRW (with ABS) | From 1600 |
Original LADA410608481R | From 1400 |
Analogs | |
FERODOFDB1617 | From 1680 |
FORTECHFB1223F | From 1200 |
KOTL22KT | From 1500 |
ADR ADR011311 | From 1300 |
Valeo 301641 | From 1350 |
*prices are as of 04/07/2019. |
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Elements of the front wheel brake mechanism: 1 - bolt securing the bracket to the guide pin;
2 — caliper; 3 - guide pin; 4 — protective cover of the guide pin; 5 — brake disc; 6 — brake pads; 7 — spring brackets of pads; 8 — shoe guide Elements of the front wheel brake mechanism: 1 — bolt securing the bracket to the guide pin; 2 — caliper; 3 - guide pin; 4 — protective cover of the guide pin; 5 — brake disc; 6 — brake pads; 7 — spring brackets of pads; 8 — pad guide
Before installing new pads, we check the condition of the protective covers of the guide pins. We replace the torn or lost elasticity cover. For this…
Rear pads
Here the user is also offered several options for original and good analogues.
Original
If in the case of the front pads everything is simple, since the originals are easy to find, and their cost is more than adequate, then the original pads for the rear brake drums will cost more than 5,000 rubles, moreover, sometimes they are very difficult to find. The original pads from Vesta have the number 8450076668.
As already mentioned, some versions have disc brakes; in this case, the original ones are pads from TRW under the number GDB1384, they cost about 1,500 rubles.
Moreover, users did not find any significant defects, and they can be found in stock or ordered at almost any spare parts store. Accordingly, in the case of installed rear disc brakes, the most reasonable option would be to use the same pads from TWR that the manufacturer supplied from the factory.
Analogs
If everything is clear with disc brakes, then users of versions with a drum mechanism are extremely dissatisfied with such a high cost of the original brakes, given that the car still represents the public sector class.
Therefore, it is worth paying attention to some proven analogs that will install without problems and do not require modifications; moreover, the above options are of good quality and cost much less than the original:
- BS 5717 from the Japanese brand Lynx;
- BP53168 from Fenox.
Also, many users note that after small and simple modifications, pads from Ford Fusion can be installed on Vesta.
Resource
The pads on discs are usually changed every 20-30 thousand kilometers. In the case of drums, the manufacturer recommends changing the pads every 15 thousand, but most often this period increases, and they are changed at the first sign of wear, for example, extraneous sounds or decreased braking efficiency.
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... remove the guide pin from the hole in the guide block and replace the cover.
... remove the guide pin from the hole in the guide block and replace the cover.
To replace the cover of the upper guide pin, you need to unscrew the bolt of the upper fastening of the bracket to the pin and remove the bracket from the pad guide. Before installing the pin, put a little grease into the hole in the pad guide...
Removing and installing front pads
Before starting work, prepare the following tools:
- Keys for 13 and 15;
- Brake system parts cleaner (a regular rag will not be able to completely remove dirt and used lubricant residues);
- Flat screwdriver;
- High temperature grease.
The procedure for replacing parts is as follows:
- Secure the vehicle in place by applying the parking brake. Turn off the ignition. Raise the front of Vesta with a jack;
- Proceed to remove the wheel. Remove the cap, loosen the bolts one turn. Continue this action in a circle with all the bolts;
- Remove the brake fluid reservoir cap and pump out a few milliliters. This will prevent the liquid from coming under pressure. Press the brake cylinder inward with a screwdriver;
- Use a 15mm wrench to hold the caliper guide pin, and use a 13mm wrench to remove the two bolts. Do not let the free part of the caliper fall to the ground;
- Pry up the outer pad with a screwdriver and carefully remove it. In the same way, remove the inner block;
- The spring retainer, which is responsible for uniform wear, will have to be cleaned and then re-coated with lubricant;
- Install a new part - first the external one, then the internal one;
- Clean the guides and also coat them with lubricant;
- Put all the parts back;
- Tighten the fastening bolts, install the wheel, clockwise, one rotation at a time, secure all the bolts.
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...and apply a thin layer of lubricant to the surface of the finger.
...and apply a thin layer of lubricant to the surface of the finger.
We install new brake pads in the pad guide and then assemble the assembly in the reverse order.
We similarly replace the pads on the other side of the car.
After replacing the pads, press the brake pedal several times to set the gaps between the pads and discs. We check the fluid level in the tank and, if necessary, bring it up to normal.
During operation, the surface of the brake disc becomes uneven, as a result of which the contact area of the new, not yet worn-in pads with the disc decreases. Therefore, during the first 100 km of driving after replacing the pads, until the new pads have broken in, be careful, as the car’s braking distance may increase, the pads may heat up more than usual, up to the appearance of light smoke and smell, especially in hot weather.
Lada Vesta: replacing the brake pads of the front wheels
Reviews
№ | Positive |
1. | Valery , 43 years old (www.otzovik.com): driven over 75,000 km, TRW pads installed. I'm happy with the quality, no complaints. |
2. | Kirill , 39 years old (www.zr.ru): I’ve been actively using the car for two years now, without any comments. The units are operating normally. |
3. | Vitaly , 23 years old (www.autobann.su): original pads installed on Lada Vesta from Renault. The quality is impeccable, the pedal moves smoothly, and the car does not pull to the side. |
4. | Georgy , 33 years old (www.lada-vesta.net): I bought the car second-hand, the Lada Vesta already had Ferodo pads installed. More effective than the native ones, which are equipped by default. |
5. | Vladlen , 41 years old (www.otzovik.com): there are no comments on the brake circuit, unlike the Lada Grant, the Vesta has good brakes. |
6. | Dmitry , 43 years old (www.zr.ru): on the advice of his comrades, I bought ATE pads. I've been testing it for a month, no comments. |
7. | Vitalievich , 25 years old (www.autobann.su): I recommend Eurodetal pads to all my friends. Good quality, affordable price, manufacturer's warranty.. |
8. | Zheka , 33 years old (www.lada-vesta.net): calipers, linings are good, mileage over 45,000 km, sufficient thickness reserve. |
9. | Konstantin Vladislavovich , 49 years old (www.otzovik.com): replaced the original linings at a mileage of 70,000 km, for a domestic car this is very good. |
10. | Makarovich , 43 years old (www.zr.ru): the car is of average quality, in some places it needs improvement. |
11. | Vasily , 36 years old (www.autobann.su): review of the car is positive, the driver must have systematic care and prevention. |
Negative | |
12. | Ivan , 42 years old (www.zr.ru): the original linings lasted a year, after which they wore out. As it turned out at the service station, it was a manufacturing defect; it was replaced under warranty. |
13. | Vitaly , 38 years old (www.otzovik.com): the car is good, but the quality of the parts was inherited. |
14. | Ivan Vasilyevich , 47 years old (www.autobann.su): if possible, buy a second generation Renault Megane, Renault Logan, Duster. |
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The nature of the malfunctions can be noted:
- Uniform wear - it manifests itself in the fact that the friction layer is worn evenly, this shows that the brakes are working well.
- Severe wear of the friction layer, brake rivets are visible - this means that you have been using the “outdated” parts for too long. The rivets could damage the disc, so it would be a good idea to inspect it for damage.
- The friction layer is worn evenly around the entire circle, but one of the sides is worn out more than the other - one of the parts of the brake system (guide or piston) does not distribute the braking force correctly. Cleaning all “live” parts and applying a new layer of lubricant will help. Naturally, everything will have to change.
- Both components are worn unevenly, the surface is strewn with irregularities and roughness. The reason for this outcome is a malfunction of the caliper guide pins - they swing and do not give an even trajectory of movement. You will have to clean them, then reapply lubricant.
- The friction lining is cracked - in this case, the “trouble” is caused by the brake discs themselves - they wear unevenly. Everything will have to change.
- Uneven wear of the friction layer means that the parts were installed incorrectly. They will have to be changed.
After performing a visual inspection of the damage, you can independently make a verdict about the breakdown. And besides this, there are several other signs by which you can find out about a faulty front pad while sitting behind the wheel.
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Replacement with calipers
Replacement with calipers is carried out in the same order, only at the stage when the entire mechanism is disassembled, using keys 13 and 15 you need to remove the caliper and put new parts in its place.
To replace rear disc pads on a Lada Vesta you need:
- Place the car on the ramp and lock it in gear;
- Bring the brake fluid level to a little less than half;
- Raise the rear of the machine and secure it with the support stand. Remove the wheel;
- Install the disc removal tool from the hub;
- Place the central part on the axle, and the rest will create pressure on the disk;
- If something won't come off, treat it with wd-40. Remove the bolt that secures the disc to the hub. Do this carefully, because if the edges of the bolt come off, it will be more difficult to remove;
- Remove the brake pads;
- Check the condition of the brake system. Put the new components in place and reassemble everything in reverse order;
- Bring the brake fluid level to about and adjust the brake pedal.
Analogues on calipers and drums
There are analogues for Lada Vesta drum brakes on the market:
- Fenox (BP53013). Cost 980 rubles; (BP53168) Price 1340 rubles;
- Hella Pagid (8DB355002-411). Price 2780 rubles;
- JP Group (1563900810). Price 1490 rubles;
- Mintex (MFR516). Price 2550 rubles;
- Patron (PSP8742). Price 730 rubles;
- Remsa (4137.00). Price 1110 rubles;
- Textar (91057300). Price 3130 rubles.
There is an analogue of Lada Vesta disc brakes. It is produced by TRW, article number gdb1384, cost – 1400 rubles.