Car : Lada Largus. Asks : Ruslan Tsarkulov. Question : I locked the key in the car, it was standing at the garage door, how do I open the door?
I, like many others, found myself in the following situation. I was warming up my car (Lada Largus) next to my garage, and for some reason the central locking worked. It is possible that the alarm system has malfunctioned. However, the machine continued to work, and I could not open it. The only lucky thing is that in the next garage the guys are doing similar things. They opened the car for me, but I never saw the way.
What should you do in such situations, and is there a way to open the car door yourself? Naturally, the method is needed in such a way that it can be handled without special equipment and without damaging the car. Do not suggest breaking glass!
Ruslan, it’s also interesting to know. Suddenly I find myself in a similar situation. Although I have two keys for my car. One with you, and the second at home. Fortunately, the garage is at hand and the journey will take 30 minutes, so you won’t have to break the windows.
There seems to be one way, but that’s how it turns out. People use a thin metal line and pass it between the door, it seems like the lock works when it catches on the line and “waila!”, the swallow has opened. Good question, though.
The fishing line method is suitable if you have experience with this. I tried several times... it turned out about 20 times))
The motorist explained in detail what needs to be done in a situation where the driver forgot the keys in the LADA Largus, and the door accidentally slammed. This method is also suitable for Renault Logan cars.
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The sucker is fate.
I went to visit my mother-in-law, 300 kilometers from home. And while I was loading my wife’s things (she was staying for almost a month while she closed the session), I threw the keys into the trunk. But my alarm is designed so that it does not detect the opening of the trunk doors. In general, having loaded my things, I slammed the trunk and remembered that I had left the keys inside, and the spare houses were three hundred kilometers away...
I took out my phone and tried to find some way to open the doors, while roaming was greedily eating up my balance, I couldn’t find anything useful. I decided to use the old method of opening the “ten”, but I could not catch the lock’s pull. As a result, armed with a thick steel wire, he bent the top edge of the passenger door and pressed the central locking button.
Now I’m thinking of stopping by the salon and asking for the luggage compartment limit switches to be connected to the signaling system.
This is how I heroically overcame the difficulties created by myself, because it was possible to be more attentive and it was much easier to take a spare set and put it, for example, in the inner pocket of my jacket. And last time there (a year earlier) I left my keys in a patrol car (!), where they wanted to fine me for parking in the wrong place. By the way, there was a sign, although it was hard to find, but that’s a completely different story...
Mileage: 60,500 km
How to connect to the battery to recharge if it’s dead and the locks don’t work
To connect to the starter of a car with a dead battery to recharge it without opening the hood, we attach the black terminal from the donor minus to ground, and the red crocodile from the positive terminal must be attached to the upper terminal of the retractor starter (a thick white or red wire comes from it)
Having used one of the methods and opened the doors, the dead battery must be recharged in any case, otherwise you will again soon have difficulties either opening or closing the door and setting the car alarm. You can also recharge the battery a little, and then just open the locks.
To recharge a car battery, it is not necessary to remove it; you can charge it on the spot, without even opening the hood (if you encounter any difficulties). Moreover, for this it is not at all necessary to open the hood (or trunk, if the battery is located in the rear of the car). And to do this, you need to connect alligator wires to the power terminals. These are the terminals on the generator or starter.
Lighting a cigarette or recharging the battery through the backlight and turn signal will not work since large currents are needed to recharge the battery, and accordingly, the standard wiring may not be able to withstand it!
Starting the generator
You can open a car with a dead battery simply by starting the generator directly. If it starts, it will be able to recharge the battery, and accordingly, the central locking will open. Powerful energy sources (high current) are not needed to start the generator. To do this, you can use any 12-volt DC source (another car battery, a motorcycle battery, or even a screwdriver).
Please note that the cross-section of the wires used to start the generator must be at least 5 mm²! It is best to use special wires for lighting. You can crawl into the generator either from below from the pit, or simply by jacking up the car
Additional difficulty may be created by its location or the need to remove the engine protection.
You can crawl into the generator either from below from the pit, or simply by jacking up the car. An additional difficulty may be created by its location or the need to remove the engine protection.
The wire from the positive terminal of the second battery must be connected to the thickest positive wire on the generator, and the negative wire to the “ground” (body) of the car. After power is supplied, the central locking can be opened using the key fob. And if you are using a second car battery, you can start the engine so that the generator starts working and charges your dead battery under the hood.
Connecting to the starter
Opening a car using the central lock and starter, using Skoda as an example: video
You can also open the alarm if the battery is dead by connecting to the starter. To avoid unscrewing or removing anything, crawl underneath and connect the wires from the second battery to the positive terminal of the starter (it has a large thick red wire) and the ground of the car. Once connected, the central locking will open simply from a signal from the key fob. This method will allow you to start the engine and, due to the operation of the generator, recharge the battery. Just take thicker wires!
It is necessary to connect with wires for “lighting”, since they can withstand high current. And the external power source must produce a current of 400 Amps and above. The starter startup time should not exceed 5 seconds! Otherwise, either the wiring or the starter itself may burn out.
Lada Largus 2012, engine Gasoline 1.6 liter., 84 hp, Front drive, Manual — other categories
Comments 13
As I understand it, of course you can slam the door at Largus, but why do it at all? Do you still use the keys or the alarm to close it?
I didn’t quite understand what I was talking about. I slammed it so that the car wouldn’t stand in the yard with the trunk open, but I forgot that I threw the keys there
Everything is very simple there, the hardest thing is to find a round iron rod, but I used a brake pipe from a classic, 5 minutes of patience and it opens, 2 Largus have already been opened without a key. I won’t describe the process, otherwise the youngsters will suddenly come in droves
It was exactly the same situation. The Cenmax V-6A alarm was installed in a car dealership. It was later found out that it was not connected to the trunk limit switch. We arrived with a partner after working on the bride price. While we were walking down the street developing a production plan, I set the car on security. Then, when he came back, he disarmed the security while he took the equipment out of the trunk - he put the keys nearby in the trunk so that he wouldn’t have to hold them in his hand. And the alarm system is designed so that if, after disarming the car, more than one door does not open, then the alarm system closes the car after 30 seconds. Well, while I was rummaging in the trunk, I didn’t hear the central locking close, I took out everything I needed and slammed the trunk door, but the keys remained in it. Well, I still think they screwed up. I had to call my friends, they came, took me home to get spare keys, and then took me back. I opened it with spare keys. Later I made changes to the car's electrical wiring. I cut the wire from the trunk limit switch (green, it seems) and paralleled it with the driver's door limit switch wire. After this, the alarm began to react to the trunk, perceiving it as an open door. Later I wanted to change the signaling, I wanted it with auto start. I bought a Pantera 868, it already has a separate wire for the trunk limit switch. I had to parallelize the driver's door end switch and the trunk end switch wire and splice it back together. There are no problems with the new alarm; open doors are displayed in the key fob as doors, and the trunk as a trunk.
Car doors do not open well
The most common manufacturer defect is that the rear and front doors on Kalina are difficult to open.
The flaw occurs in used cars and those that have just come off the assembly line. The reason is incorrect or insufficient adjustment of the door handle or the door itself. In used cars, the doors become loose over time. Uneven gaps form at the joints with the housing components. The problem can be solved with the help of a service center or fixed by yourself. The second option is more acceptable for experienced drivers, experienced auto mechanics and those who like to experiment with their car.
First of all, it is important to find out the reason why the back door on a Viburnum does not open well. An external inspection of the defect is carried out, comparison with the original position of the part.
Based on the results of the check, you can adjust the elements yourself.
In a similar way, malfunctions of the front and rear doors are eliminated, including the trunk door, if the car has a hatchback or station wagon body, but in this case there are nuances.
Option #1. We call the master
The problem of locked keys and locked doors is as old as time. This situation is not isolated; this happens to drivers quite often. It is worth noting that the more complex the security system installed in the car, the more difficult it is to get the keys.
The best method is to cooperate with an insurance company that provides roadside assistance.
In this case, all you need to do is call the manager, describe the problem, and soon specialists will come to the rescue to help solve incidental situations such as a door being blocked.
If your insurance company does not provide such services, then all you have to do is call a car mechanic. You will have to wait a long time for the master to arrive - about 2 hours, or even longer. But he will open the lock without damaging the car with a tool specially designed for this purpose. The service is paid, the cost depends on the region, urgency and complexity of the work.
Installation Features
As you know, the gas stop of the hood of the above-mentioned vehicle is mounted in standard places. In other words, there is no need to drill additional holes. In this case, it is imperative to install two supports at once, since only in such an equal number they will be able to cope with the weight of the entire hood without tilting.
Before directly tightening the bolts, they must be lubricated with thread locker, otherwise they will often come loose due to constant vibration. Experts do not recommend installing powerful mechanisms, since with them the hood opens very quickly, which contributes to rapid deformation.
If we take standard stops, they have a thread with dimensions of 8 mm. It is advisable to reduce it to 6 mm, which can be done in any turning workshop. This is done from the standpoint of reserve space during operation. As for altering the hood holes, this is not worth doing, since after this procedure rust appears at the drilling sites, which will have to be dealt with.
In some places, the bolts are replaced with similar flat head fasteners. If this is not done, the gas lifting mechanism will rest against the standard fastener. This will undoubtedly cause discomfort when closing the hood.
When installing the upper part, the bolts are unscrewed symmetrically on each side. The tip of the support is mounted in their place without using a washer. If this is done in relation to the wing, then a wide variety of it is already placed under it.
It is worth noting that the gas stops must be installed with the rod down. This way, the O-ring can be constantly lubricated with oil and not dry out over time.
Option #2. We use wire and rope
This option, of course, is free, but it requires a certain skill, which is shown by the heroes of action-packed films. There are several ways to open the door yourself:
- Using a wire hook. It is important that the wire has medium stiffness and a length of about 70 cm. It needs to be bent so that you get a 7-centimeter hook at an angle of 45 degrees. The wire should fit freely into the space between the seal and the glass. You should insert the “tool” into the indicated space and hook it to the opening button. Pull until the pusher rises. Opening time is about 15 minutes.
- Rope loop. The method is suitable only if the car has an internal button protruding above the door panel. So, first you need to bend the corner of the door. Wind the rope, hook it to the button and pull. Requires maximum concentration and dexterity.
Replacement or repair
To check the condition of the parts, the door lock of the Lada Largus car must be removed and disassembled. To get to the plastic box that hides the core of the device, the handle is removed, the decorative panel is removed, and the wiring is disconnected. To work you need to prepare:
- screwdrivers;
- pliers;
- socket wrench 8;
- lubricant;
- anti-corrosion;
- knife.
Only an experienced mechanic can go through all the rules and identify the cause of the damage. It is easier for the average person to replace the cylinder, wiring or the entire lock.
Removing the trim
To work with the wiring, you will need to disconnect the contacts on the car box, otherwise a short circuit may occur. It is more convenient to carry out the procedure from inside the car. To dismantle the casing element, the following algorithm of actions is provided:
- Remove the plugs on the handle. Unscrew the three bolts under them.
- Remove the plastic cover.
- Remove the top of the trim panel by unfastening the clips.
- Remove the front shutter glass position switch.
- Dismantle the wiring harness block.
- Disconnect electrical wiring: speakers (if equipped), power windows.
- Unfasten the bottom row of clips to remove the panel.
- Unscrew the handle. Gained access to the castle.
- Unfasten the rods, remove the spring and washer.
- Unscrew the fasteners holding the box.
Now you can unscrew the box fasteners, remove the cylinder and conduct a visual inspection. If the driver comes to the conclusion that there is damage to the mechanism, then it is worth installing a new core. Having the skills, you can try to repair it, but this measure will extend the life of the device for a short time.
Replacing the cylinder or the entire device
Regardless of what decision was made, after removing the larva and before the installation process, it is necessary to treat the internal niche with an anti-corrosion substance. If a new core is installed, it is treated with a lubricant; if a solid device is installed, these actions are not required, then it is inserted into the old box. Next steps:
- The bolts are tightened. It is important to make sure that the box is secure.
- The rods are attached to hinges. The spring and washer are returned to their place.
- Wiring is being installed. The operation of the lock is checked.
Installation of the sheathing fabric is carried out in the same way as removal.
Repair options: modification, adjustment, adjustment
You can repair the pins, spring, washer and rods. The process is painstaking and requires skill. Possible actions:
- Removing the pins from the rod end. Stitch.
- Cleaning spare parts from corrosive deposits.
- Installation of spacers between the cylinder and the lock body.
- Tightening the spring and other fasteners.
- Replacement of the washer or spring is done using a flat-head screwdriver.
Individual parts for the Lada are easy to find. Sometimes tuning or adjusting the lock will help. After the device has been inspected, the grooves and pins are thoroughly cleaned. Contamination is a common cause of blockage. If the check shows that the key does not fit into the well, additional lubrication of the elements or adjustment of the internal teeth will be required. The Largus lock of the front left or right door is adjusted using a hexagon. This work is carried out before the complete assembly of the structure is completed. Required:
- Open the door, disassemble the stand.
- Loosen the screws, then fix them at a right angle.
- Change the position of the adjusting bolts by tightening or further loosening.
Option #3. Alternative methods
These methods take a little longer and require some tools. For example, using a drill, you can carefully drill out the lock cylinder. Minus - most likely, you will have to change all the lock cylinders in the car.
Another option is to pick up some metal object that will replace the key.
If you manage to force this pseudo-key into the lock, then it can be turned. Sometimes a screwdriver can act as a lock. But the larva will be irrevocably damaged.
The broken window was mentioned above. There is no need to write off this option, but it should be used only as a last resort, when other methods do not work or there is no time to use them.
In this case, you need to be prepared for the fact that you will have to drive in inclement weather with an open window, or that a traffic police officer will stop you and have to explain to him what happened. If you cannot do without breaking the glass, be careful not to get hurt, do not hit with your bare hand, it is better to use improvised objects.
Be careful, especially when away from home, and do not leave your keys in the lock. Better yet, always keep a spare set with you.
In this case, he will help solve the problem without unnecessary effort, time and nerves.
Causes of malfunction
The Largus rear door lock operates with an electric drive, and the driver's door can be opened mechanically. Poor performance is influenced not only by time, but also by:
- weather;
- irregular diagnosis;
- lack of care;
- aggressive detergents;
- water ingress;
- corrosion of metal;
- broken internal pins;
- disconnective displacement;
- device hacking;
- deformation of the body part.
Only a complete diagnosis will help identify the malfunction.
Activating automatic door locking on Lada Largus
The central locking (CL) in Lada Largus is controlled by the CEBKS unit (central electronic switching unit of the cabin). One of its functions is to automatically lock the doors while driving. This function does not work normally. Let's figure out how to activate the door locks with your own hands when you reach a certain speed.
Instructions were provided by user oapv from the Lada Largus forum.
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Revision of TsEBKS
The factory does not send a signal to the CEBCS about the current speed of the vehicle, but the design can be improved. The CEBCS can receive data on the current vehicle speed from a speed sensor (installed on cars until 2014) or from the ECU (since 2014, the speed signal comes from the ABS).
The signal must be sent to pin A6 of the black 40-pin connector of the CEBCS unit (see pinout of the unit). The terminal from the power connector of the Floppy drive is suitable for this.
The speed sensor signal can be taken from three places:
- from the instrument cluster
- from the connector in the relay and fuse box under the hood
- from the airbag control unit
Let's look at the first two options:
1. Instrument cluster. The signal with the vehicle speed data comes via a green wire to pin 22 of the black connector of the instrument panel.
2. Mounting block in the engine compartment. The speed data signal goes along the green wire through pin C5 of the connector (its front part). We connect to it a free thin white wire, taped with electrical tape to the wiring harness at the entrance to the block. The other end of this wire is taped with electrical tape to the wiring harness that goes to the connectors of the CEBCS unit.
Software activation
- laptop;
- K-Line adapter (link to Ali, price about 300 rubles);
- DDT 2000 program (read the readme file for installation).
1.
Connect the K-Line adapter to the OBDII diagnostic connector.
2.
Start DDT2000 Light (you don’t have to turn on the ignition).
3.
Select the
UCH Configuration tab.
4.
Opposite point
5
, select
the YES
(Oui) option. This gives permission to automatically lock the doors while driving.
5.
Select the
UCH Parameters
, where in the first line of the third window you need to indicate the speed at which auto-locking is triggered.
Then click the corresponding button in the Envoi column.
ps Lecture is translated as “reading”
Now to enable the mode
To automatically lock the doors when the vehicle is moving, you must:
- Turn on the ignition.
- Press and hold (about 5 seconds) the central locking button on the front panel.
- Wait for a single confirmation buzzer from the UCB unit.
To turn off the mode, you need to do the same with the central locking unlock button.
What happens when the battery in the electronic key fob runs out?
In fact, and fortunately for us, today there are ways to open a car when the battery in the key is dead, and even start the engine in some car models. The situation is that most automakers have equipped electronic car keys (key fobs) with a hidden emergency key, with which you can not only open the door, but also start the car engine. But, however, I must admit that not everything is so easy here.
For example, car brands such as Audi, BMW, Ford, General Motors and some Hyundai, Jaguar, Kia, Lexus, VW and Volvo models have hidden secret keyholes for the emergency key.
Dear friends, we invite you to study the instructions for many cars, which will help you solve the problem if the battery in the car remote control is discharged. With the help of our guide, you will be able to open your car using the emergency key. Our series of publications in the near future will also include instructions for opening and starting the engine of the following brands:
BMW / Mini Chrysler / Dodge / Jeep Fisker Ford / Lincoln General Motors (Chevrolet / Cadillac / Buick) Honda / Acura Hyundai / Kia Jaguar Mazda Mercedes Mitsubishi Nissan / Infiniti Subaru Toyota / Lexus Volvo VW / Audi
Today we are publishing the first instructions in a series of publications that will tell you how to open BMW and MINI cars, as well as how you can start the engine without an electronic key fob in cases where the battery is dead.
We open the door of a BMW and Mini car if the battery in the key fob is dead.
This integrated key can be used to open the driver's door of BMW and Mini cars. To open the door with this special key, you must insert it into a special hole in the car, which is located at the bottom of the door handle of the front driver's door.
Attention! Many new car models do not have open hidden emergency key locks. Over the past year, automakers have begun hiding key holes under plastic door handles. Therefore, remember for yourself that in order to open the car door you will have to damage the front door handle by breaking off a piece of plastic in it
Therefore, remember for yourself that in order to open the car door you will have to damage the front door handle by breaking off a piece of plastic in it.
For example, the BMW X5 car model, starting from 2014, does not have an open technological hole for opening the car with a special key.
To open the door in such a car using a hidden key, you need to insert this key into a special hole (shown by an arrow in the picture) and press the door handle.
If your car has a hidden lock for the key, then place the key in the place indicated by the arrow in the picture, and then press the key up. The plastic that hides the key lock itself will simply pop off. Next, you need to press the key again and immediately press the door handle - the door will open.