Body torsional rigidity table: Kalina, Priora and the best foreign cars

about body torsional rigidity

The torsional rigidity of the body on the Leon is 23800 N*m/deg.

for comparison: for VAZ-2112 (5-door hatchback) 8100 N*m/deg for VAZ-2106 (sedan) 6500 N*m/deg for Ford Focus 5d 17,900 N*m/deg for Lambo Murcielago 20,000 N*m /deg.

and here are a bunch of (mostly sports) cars: Alfa 159 - 31,400Nm/degree Aston Martin DB9 Coupe 27,000 Nm/deg Aston Martin DB9 Convertible 15,500 Nm/deg Aston Martin Vanquish 28,500 Nm/deg Audi TT Coupe 19,000 Nm/deg Bugatti EB110 — 19,000 Nm/degree BMW E36 Touring 10,900 Nm/deg BMW E36 Z3 5,600 Nm/deg BMW E46 Sedan (w/o folding seats) 18,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Sedan (w/folding seats) 13,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Wagon ( w/folding seats) 14,000 Nm/deg BMW E46 Coupe (w/folding seats) 12,500 Nm/deg BMW E46 Convertible 10,500 Nm/deg BMW X5 (2004) — 23,100 Nm/degree BMW E90: 22,500 Nm/deg BMW Z4 Coupe, 32,000Nm/degree BMW Z4 Roadster: 14,500 Nm/deg Bugatti Veyron — 60,000 Nm/degree Chrysler Crossfire 20,140 Nm/deg Chrysler Durango 6,800 Nm/deg Chevrolet Corvette C5 9,100 Nm/deg Dodge Viper Coupe 7,600 Nm/deg Ferrari 360 Spider 8,500 N m /deg Ford GT: 27,100 Nm/deg Ford GT40 MkI 17,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang 2003 16,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang 2005 21,000 Nm/deg Ford Mustang Convertible (2003) 4,800 Nm/deg Ford Mustang Convertible (2005) 9,500 Nm/deg Jaguar X-Type Sedan 22,000 Nm/deg Jaguar X-Type Estate 16,319 Nm/deg Koenigsegg — 28,100 Nm/degree Lotus Elan 7,900 Nm/deg Lotus Elan GRP body 8,900 Nm/deg Lotus Elise 10,000 Nm/deg Lotus Elise 111s 11,000 Nm/ deg Lotus Esprit SE Turbo 5,850 Nm/deg Maserati QP — 18,000 nm/degree McLaren F1 13,500 Nm/deg Mercedes SL — With top down 17,000 Nm/deg, with top up 21,000 Nm/deg Mini (2003) 24,500 Nm/deg Pagani Zonda C12 S 26,300 Nm/deg Pagani Zonda F — 27,000 Nm/degree Porsche 911 Turbo (2000) 13,500 Nm/deg Porsche 959 12,900 Nm/deg Porsche Carrera GT — 26,000 Nm/degree Rolls-Royce Phantom — 40,500 Nm/degree Volvo S60 20.0 00 Nm/deg Audi A2: 11,900 Nm/deg Audi A8: 25,000 Nm/deg Audi TT: 10,000 Nm/deg (22Hz) Golf V GTI: 25,000 Nm/deg Chevrolet Cobalt: 28 Hz Ferrari 360: 1,474 kgm/degree (bending: 1,032 kg/mm) Ferrari 355: 1,024 kgm/degree (bending: 727 kg/mm) Ferrari 430: supposedly 20% higher than 360 Renault Sport Spider: 10,000 Nm/degree Volvo S80: 18,600 Nm/deg Koenigsegg CC-8: 28,100 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Turbo 996: 27,000 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Turbo 996 Convertible: 11,600 Nm/deg Porsche 911 Carrera Type 997: 33,000 Nm/deg Lotus Elise S2 Exige (2004): 10,500 Nm/deg Volkswagen Fox: 17,941 Nm/ deg VW Phaeton — 37,000 Nm/degree VW Passat (2006) — 32,400 Nm/degree Ferrari F50: 34,600 Nm/deg Lambo Gallardo: 23,000 Nm/deg Mazda Rx-8: 30,000 Nm/deg Mazda Rx-7:

15,000 Nm/deg Mazda RX8 — 30,000 Nm/degree Saab 9-3 Sportcombi — 21,000 Nm/degree Opel Astra — 12,000 Nm/degree Land rover Freelander 2 — 28,000 Nm/degree Lamborghini Countach 2,600 Nm/deg Ford Focus 3d 19,600 Nm/deg Ford Focus 5d 17.900 Nm/deg

VAZ-1111E Oka 3-door hatchback 7000 VAZ-21043 station wagon 6300 VAZ-2105 sedan 7300 VAZ-2106 sedan 6500 VAZ-2107 sedan 7200 VAZ-21083 3-door hatchback 8200 VAZ-21093 5 -door hatchback 6800 VAZ-21099 sedan 5500 VAZ-2115 sedan 5500 VAZ-2110 sedan 8000 VAZ-21102 sedan 8400 VAZ-2111 station wagon 7400 VAZ-2112 5-door hatchback 8100 VAZ-21106 sedan 12200 VAZ-21106* 2-door sedan 5 1800 VAZ-21108 Premier** sedan 10500 VAZ-21109 Consul** limousine 14300 VAZ-21213 Niva 3-door hatchback 8900 VAZ-2131 Niva 5-door hatchback 7400 VAZ-2123 new Niva 5-door hatchback 12000 VAZ-2120 Nadezhda 4-door minivan 1000 0 Lada Largus 20000 Nm/ hail like a Lambo Murcielago

* The car of factory racer Alexander Nikonenko, prepared for the 2000 Russian championship in road racing.

**Modifications of the VAZ-2110 sedan with an extended wheelbase.

more data on foreign-made cars

Daewoo Lanos 1997 3-door hatchback 10500 Daewoo Nubira 1997 sedan 14500 Fiat Tempra 1994 sedan 6700 Fiat Brava 1996 5-door hatchback 9100 Fiat Bravo 1996 3-door hatchback 10600 Ford Fiesta 1995 3- door hatchback 6500 Ford Maverick 1995 5-door hatchback 4400 Nissan Micra 1995 3-door hatchback 4000 Nissan Sunny 1995 3-door hatchback 8200 Nissan Prairie 4×4 1995 5-door hatchback 7500 Opel Corsa 1995 3-door hatchback 6500 Opel Corsa 1999 3-door hatchback 8000 O pel Astra 1998 3-door hatchback 10500 Opel Astra 1998 5-door hatchback 11700 Opel Astra 1998 sedan 11900 Opel Vectra 1999 sedan 8800 Opel Omega 1999 sedan 13000 Opel Combo 1999 van 18500 Renault Twingo 1995 3-door hatchback 1420 0 Toyota Starlet 1995 5-door hatchback 7600 Toyota Corolla 1995 3- door hatchback 10500

Vesta, Priora, suspension, rigidity and softness.

The fact that they put more goodies into the Priora does not make it better structurally. The buns are all a convention. They may be, they may not be. But the chassis and suspension of the Vesta are better, and this is the most important thing. This is comfort. And no amount of goodies can cancel this fact.

The Vesta platform is cheaper than the Priora.

The levers of the vest are made from stamping. CV joints internal tripod. glass insert without rubber seals, headlights are not completely chromed, etc., etc.

And all your “comfort” is created by installing soft bushings, bushing springs, bushing light levers, etc...

And the funny thing is that the consumer does not understand that comfort in a car brings deterioration in its design.

The first photo is Vesta, the second is Niva. the weight of the cars is almost the same... but what different springs are used...

comfort = fagot and complete lack of safety margin.

The smaller the mass of unsprung parts and the mass of semi-sprung parts (levers, rods), the more comfortable the suspension.

The higher the tire profile, the more comfortable the rider.

Vesta... has a larger and heavier body along with less durable chassis parts. This is a foreign car. I don't feel any enthusiasm about this.

A UAZ with dead front shock absorbers and half a ton of cement in the trunk drives very smoothly.

This is banal physics...

You increase the mass of m1 and it fluctuates less when the mass of m2 fluctuates.

You reduce m2 and it transfers less force to m1

you reduce the transmission coefficient (stiffness of springs, silents, etc.) and again M1 fluctuates less.

only all this is for a reason and all this has its consequences.

and I don’t think that cars were created by idiots before. in fact, they are not made by idiots even now, but now they are under great pressure from a herd of idiots.

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For those who want to get the Vesta effect on their pelvis... buy 185/65 R15 wheels. This is already half the way to Western comfort. Buy them not anyhow, but buy winter Velcro from a Russian factory. Why? It is soft... 50-55 units at Shore A.

Find yourself the softest silent blocks. if you really want it like theirs... drill holes in them to make them not solid... what's scary?

But foreign car manufacturers are not afraid...

silent block Vesta

Sralyaris

An entertaining psychological game, isn't it?

Cutting a solid silent block of a VAZ for the sake of comfort is scary. But buying a bucket with silent blocks cut from the factory for 1-2-3-4-10-15 million is normal. Not scary. all OK.

Everyone masturbates so much at this softness of the suspension that it starts smoking.

And when I suggest how to ruin the suspension of a VAZ so that it becomes like a foreign car, no one wants it!

What does this mean? About the fact that you understand everything... that the suspension in these imported buckets is really damaged. But the zombie effect is so strong that it’s easier for you to believe in a miracle. That I’m kind of wrong and everything is wrong. Your brain is now frantically looking for an explanation for all this. How to get rid of the split silent blocks of foreign cars from my memory. Forget about the pedestal levers and springs... Forget the picture with the weights. Forget this simple explanation of how to achieve the smallest transfer of vibrations m2 to m1.

Whoever is dumber will simply say “he’s a moron, don’t listen to him.”

Someone a little smarter will begin to weave in some facts from which he will try to put together a clumsy refutation.

Don't try, citizens.

There is a road and it is crooked. So that your body does not follow the topography of the road, the wheel should dangle like shit in a hole in all directions without having any effect on the body. This is achieved by a pedestal connection between the wheels and the body.

There are no other ways.

Even his mother is a hovercraft and he will experience a blow from the air compaction that arises on a convex unevenness. Although it doesn't touch the surface at all.

Once again to consolidate... Do you want to turn the TAZ into a foreign car?

Hyundai solaris silent block. No wonder it fell off. After all, its design has a smaller adhesion area and allows for greater movement... so that the body in the elephant is softer.

Sayletblock VAZ Do you want it like in a foreign car? take a drill and drill it. Do you see it is solid? but for comfort you need a holey one. Take action! I'm telling you in action!!! Why are you sitting? …Then don’t tell me that foreign cars are cool cars!

1. If you believe that foreign cars are done correctly, you must drill holes in all the silent blocks of your car. (inomarophil pelvic aqueductor variant)
2. If you do not allow holes to be created in silent blocks, then you must admit that the engineers of VAZ, GAZ, UAZ were right and know better how to make cars for Russia. And you should stop jerking off to “holey comfort.”
3. If you have a foreign car and it’s already full of holes in the rubber bands from the factory... and you think that’s how it should be. Everything is supposedly correct. Then you must admit the superiority of VAZ cars... they are made stronger, more reliable and it cost more than your foreign car... more expensive in cost, not for the buyer. And you paid more for a cheap option with holes... accordingly, you were screwed.

New Lada: How the remote control system (RCS) of Lada-Kalina (VAZ-1117, 1118, 1119) works
PS I have long wanted to kill my silents, pick them out and make exactly the same ones but from softer rubber (there is such a possibility. To prove it with a full-scale experiment your rightness. Make it not solid and soft). But there is a problem... VAZ factory silent blocks do not want to die. And the mentality does not allow spoiling good ones.

PS2 Drill the holes, drill them out. I’m telling you for sure there will be more comfort! Look how comfortable it is when the wheels dangle in different directions!

PS3 Do you think the silents in this car are full of holes? No holes or sheet stamping. They are probably afraid that at the speeds at which Ferrari develops, it is unacceptable for the wheels to dangle comfortably like on “the best-selling foreign cars in Russia.”

PS4 My fart is on fire and therefore the author is absolutely wrong. I see that he is right, but I can’t believe it because... He cannot be right, because if he were right... there would be a catastrophe for my worldview. Therefore, he is absolutely wrong. We urgently need to find a delusional and plausible refutation of his simple truths. He's just a sucker who doesn't know what he's talking about. After all, the rigidity of the metal body and suspension settings are also important. I don’t know what these words mean, but I definitely believe that body rigidity plays some significance! This is definitely very important!

In any case, Lanos handles better than Viper! The body is tougher!

So body rigidity is very important. And it doesn’t matter that the leader has a skidpad in tests and tests on 8k - the Dodge Viper has a little better stiffness than the Oka. because it is very important under what pressure the body will twist by one degree... under a pressure of 7 tons or 50 tons. Much more important are rubber bands that crumple under pressure of 100 kg