How to lower the Lada Granta? Pros and cons of lowered suspension

In the basic configuration, the ground clearance of the Lada Granta Sedan and Lada Granta Liftback is 160 mm. The clearance height is quite enough to overcome all road obstacles.


Low Granta Liftback

Tuning enthusiasts often practice the so-called understatement of Grants. To do this, non-standard suspension elements are installed, and the vehicle's ground clearance is reduced by 30 - 70% of the base one.

The advantages and disadvantages of tuning and how to carry it out will be discussed below.

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well, yes, it all depends on the WEIGHT of the engine and gearbox, now I have a grant on a Japanese automatic and the engine is, accordingly, a Priorovsky one - so those -40 springs are just right for me now

but on an 8 valve engine and with a simple gearbox they were too rigid

If we count by kg/cm, then judging by the last table the Priora has 19 kg/cm, right? The simple prior spring seems very stiff compared to the 9th one. For example, if we install springs from 12k (20 kg/cm) on a 9k, we won’t feel much of a difference, but a car with a prior spring becomes really stiff. Why is it interesting?

He thinks wrong. In short, 1119 = 19 kgf/cm, 2170 = 20.5 kgf/cm. Springs 2108 also have 19 kgf/cm. 1119 is an analogue. This is all on paper, and if there is at least some detailed information about 2108, then about mubia is optional.

Mubea is considered at least a serious company, in my opinion a Czech manufacturer, unlike all Russian manufacturers (except for the springs supplied to the VAZ conveyor - they write the characteristics of the springs) mubea also indicates the stiffness of the springs. I bought a sport from Viburnum for myself, you can’t find them during the day, luckily for me I saw used ones in the window, the seller didn’t even know that they were from a Viburnum sport, he claimed that they were from grants. And 25kg/cm (according to the author) is not so much, 40kg is a lot. I set myself 35 kg/cm from the classics, although they were cut into 1.5 turns, according to the athletes it turned out to be about 43 kg/cm, and the car sags on them only a couple of centimeters

Then why do the Priora have stiffer springs? It seems to be the same as 2112. At least this is how it should be for a mubia with performance characteristics. Mubia are like Germans.

Friend, 8 months ago I thought that the springs were stiffer, but in fact it’s not the springs that are to blame, but the struts. The 2112 seems to have 22 kg/cm, but if you remove your struts and make them out of something stiffer, then the car will work harder

I will list the advantages of lowering the Lada Vesta

  • More attractive and modern appearance. The car takes on a more dignified appearance and looks exactly the way it should look. The gap becomes the same as on foreign cars.
  • The suspension becomes stiffer, which improves handling. The steering becomes sharper, rolls disappear, and you can take turns at much higher speeds.
  • Pecks disappear during braking and stopping.
  • At high speeds the car has better handling and stability.
  • By reducing the altitude, the resistance is reduced, which ultimately results in fuel savings of approximately 0.5 l./100 km.
  • After you lower the Lada Vesta, the expensive, beautiful wheels look simply gorgeous, compared to how these same wheels would have looked before the lowering.
  • Many owners who lowered their Vestas note that knocks and squeaks when driving over uneven surfaces have disappeared. This can be explained by the fact that the suspension travel has become less and, in general, its operation has changed. Most have disappeared from the chassis.

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Well, I’ll check in here. Replaced it as a set. Everything else is a collective farm www.drive2.ru/l/5451862/ www.drive2.ru/l/6260204/

Are these struts complete with springs already assembled?) And there are barrel springs on the grunts in front. Why do you have these?) Can you post the website?)

Yes, the complete sets were sent, everything was assembled, I didn’t take the barrel ones, the regular ones are softer. I bought it here postavto.ru

I changed everything as a set, not for appearance, but for control, the car drives completely differently

Here the struts are -70 and the springs are -50, it’s kind of timid that they don’t fit everything) well, or is this normal. I think, on the contrary, you can set the struts -50, and the springs -70)))

for struts (short-stroke), the steering knuckle is shifted down by 20mm, in short, the spring also becomes -70. This is a typical scheme on KX. PS “-50” “-70” is the difference in the compressed springs compared to the standard ones. It’s not at all a fact that the car will sit this much.

So, do they play a big role?

everything should be coordinated simply

I changed everything as a set, not for appearance, but for control, the car drives completely differently

Well, or -70 struts in front and cut the rear. On the original racks.

Well, will the rod fit into position, or will it hang on the bump stop, what’s the point?

In the basic configuration, the ground clearance of the Lada Granta Sedan and Lada Granta Liftback is 160 mm. The clearance height is quite enough to overcome all road obstacles.

Low Granta Liftback

Tuning enthusiasts often practice the so-called understatement of Grants. To do this, non-standard suspension elements are installed, and the vehicle's ground clearance is reduced by 30 - 70% of the base one.

The advantages and disadvantages of tuning and how to carry it out will be discussed below.

Suspension of VAZ Lada Priora, Kalina, Granta: Pros and cons, why compare with Logan?

We have already compared the suspension of front-wheel drive VAZ cars with foreign cars using the Renault Logan as an example. Logan has a very successful suspension, about which many have given various positive reviews. So, reading comments, I often hear that Logone supposedly cannot drive fast and is a dangerous car. According to accident statistics, on the contrary, Renault Logan is the safest car.

Why am I comparing the suspension of the VAZ with the Logan? Most often, Logan is bought by people who have no desire to drive, but want to drive in comfort from point a to point b, for minimal money. That is why Logan gained fame as a vegetable car. Some even say that there is a nauseating driving style, well, this is complete nonsense. Logans today have engines with 102 hp and 16 valves for those who like to chase)

The whole point is that Logan’s body is set high and because of this, in the wind, it sails more strongly. Also, high ground clearance makes the car taller. This gives greater off-road capability and large space in the car interior. But after 120, the suspension is rebuilt and the car is pressed harder against the asphalt (personal experience is that my Logan bites into the track at speeds over 140).

Having learned that Logan is most often used in taxis, Renault engineers even removed the anti-roll bar from the suspension.

The wheelbase of the car is quite wide and, compared to other Logan cars, it holds the road very well. For this reason, it does not need a stabilizer bar as much as other cars. This makes the suspension a little simpler and a little more reliable due to the absence of the need to replace the stabilizer struts. It must be admitted that there are cars with even more interesting suspensions, but the price for them will most often be higher. It is precisely due to the price and similar ground clearance parameters that the suspension of Logan and Sandero can be compared with VAZ's.

Dispute about design, taste and color of all markers are different:

Well, isn't he handsome? Is this design really that ugly? No, I’ll tell you why they say that, they envy and want to prick with envy! Just compare these two photos, isn’t it true that there isn’t much of a difference, in which part of the Priora is more beautiful? Design is such a subjective matter!

Vesta already has a more modern suspension design and is in no way inferior to foreign cars in its driving performance. We can say that AvtoVAZ only reached the level of foreign cars when it released Vesta and Xray. Which were created jointly with Renault and Nissan companies based on their technologies and using the famous B0 platform.

But is the suspension of the pre-West generation Lada so bad? Advantages of the Lada suspension: Price - fewer parts and components make the suspension design simpler and cheaper. Maintainability - since the suspension is very simple, it is much cheaper to repair than that of foreign cars. Reliability - yes, it will knock and hold together, it will move, since no one has canceled the classic MacPherson strut and this is a reliable, time-tested unit. Disadvantages of the Lada suspension: Lack of a subframe - since there is no subframe, the arms are attached directly to the body and this makes the suspension more rigid. Impacts to the suspension immediately transfer to the body. Low comfort - since all the shocks of the suspension are transmitted directly to the body, naturally, this is constantly felt by the whole body. This problem is especially troubling for people with spinal problems. Noise is very common, no matter what you do, but there is a knocking sound in the suspension and it is very difficult to understand where it is coming from. You can change everything and still somewhere there will be this unpleasant knock, which is difficult to calculate. Often it occurs because the suspension mounting units break and gaps appear in the places where the silent blocks are attached. Less rigidity of the body - due to the absence of a subframe, the body plays more strongly on bumps and turns, which reduces the car’s handling. So why is everything so bad, and no, not everything, for those who want to improve the characteristics of the Lada’s suspension, there is a subframe for sale!

In the photo there is a subframe for Kalina NFR.
Summary: Of course, not everything is as bad as it seems and the suspension is still quite reliable and durable.
Some claim that they drove more than 150 thousand on it without a single replacement, but you and I understand that probably the person has hearing loss and is satisfied with that clanging underfoot. For those people who are not picky, this is a normal suspension that does not make noise and is even comfortable. Very often they talk about VAZ cars, you can hear the opinion that you can’t buy anything cheaper, it’s a budget car, there’s nothing to criticize. I assure you, on the secondary market you can always find cars of better quality and comfort, and for the same money.

The fact that many people claim that a new car is the best car is stupidity. Because I think this does not apply to Lada. People who don't have money are unlikely to buy a new car from VAZ. And those who have money will still buy at least Logan, Polo or Solaris/Rio. These models will already have a good modern suspension, as well as silence in the cabin and comfort at the level of a foreign car.

How do you feel about the VAZ suspension, write your comments.

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Ways to understate Liftback Grants

  1. Buying an air suspension on a Lada. The average cost is from 37 to 50 thousand rubles, depending on the place of purchase and technical characteristics.
  2. Front and rear suspension kit with mechanical ride height adjuster. If necessary, we independently adjust the suspension height, reduce (increase) the stiffness of the shock absorbers.
  3. The most cost effective option is to install a lowered suspension kit. We dismantle the standard shock absorbers and springs and install new ones on the factory mounts. The lowered Lada Granta is ready.
  4. Low-profile tires: changing the car's shoes to a low-profile range. Cheap and cheerful, but not advisable.
  5. Installation of lowering springs, which are sold at retail. We select the height according to the ground clearance.
  6. Trimming one or two coils on factory springs.

Problems with lowered cars

One of the two main problems in Russia is roads. It is they, or rather their quality, that harms not only the lowered suspension, but even the stock one.

• Loss of comfort when driving in a car.

Sometimes you can’t look without tears at super-lowered cars that are trying to pass a speed bump or go around another pothole on the road.

• If you have an illiterate approach to lowering the car's ground clearance (cutting the coils on the springs yourself, etc.), the suspension will not last long. And its incorrect operation only harms its entire presence, both the car and its owner.

I hope this article helped you learn about all the ways to lower the Lada Granta, decide on the most suitable one of all, and also understand whether it is necessary at all.

Comparison of Grant stock and mine at lowering -50 front and -70 rear

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Dinar, as long as the plant will be Aston

Syoma, what if it’s -50 then the car will run smoothly? or not)

I removed 2 coils from the factory springs in the back. It seems like a bit much. I didn’t touch the front.

Vasily, just yesterday you didn’t even want -50 at all) look at the threshold so that it’s level, and not along the arches, at the threshold if you look around -50 then the back is a little higher, but if you look along the line of the trunk it’s higher)

Denis, it looks avionics, I also drove only the stock front, and the rear -50 technosprings

Syoma, I can’t decide) doubts

Vasily, about

Vasily, here’s a good landing, right along the arch, around there are Saaz struts converted to -50, support bars from the VAZ 2108, which gives even a little lower and technospring springs -50

Cost of equipment for tuning Lada Grants

Lowered suspension on Grant

NamePrice, rub.)
Air suspension
service station: 5 – 10 thousand.
Shock absorbers with mechanical regulator
service station: 3 – 5 thousand.
Set of short springs, shock absorbers with limited travel SS20 Racing KIT PRO Sport 986565, 984144shock absorber from 2500 – 2800
two front ones from 4000

two rear from 4300

service station services: 5.0 thousand.

Low profile tiresR15 R16
Strial St 401 195/50 R15 82V

Triangle TE301 195/50 R15 82V

Achilles ATR Sport 195/45 R16 84V

Tigar High Performance 195/45 R16 84V XL

BFGoodrich g-Grip 195/45 R16 84V XL

the cost of re-shoes is negotiated individually

Short springs Tehnoressor
598259898, 546435443 (- 30 mm)

1000005950 (- 50 mm)

service station services: individually

Trimming factory springsindependently free
service station services: individually
Shock Absorber Kits
ASTON: understatement (-50) - (-140)

Techno Spring: (-30) — (-120)

Depending on the place of purchase

*prices are current as of October 19, 2018.

Sequence of actions for self-lowering Lada Granta

Option No. 1 Installation of short springs

Lowering springs

Let's look at how to properly lower the Granta Sedan.

  1. We place the car on a flat platform, secure the rear row of wheels with wheel chocks, and activate the parking brake lever.
  2. Jack up the front part (side) of the car and remove the wheels.
  3. Unscrew the upper and lower fastenings of the front shock absorber assembly and disconnect it from the hub. We remove it from the wheel arch.
  4. We disassemble the front strut module into its component parts: shock absorber, spring, support bearing, bowl, nuts.
  5. In place of the standard spring, install a new one (short one). Depending on the wishes of the owner, the spring height will be 30 mm, 50 mm, 70 mm.

If the owner does not pursue any specific goals when tuning, it is enough to limit the size to 30 or 50 mm. When choosing the specified parameters, there is no need to replace the standard shock absorber or insert additional rubber spacers under the support bearing mount.

We assemble the structure in reverse order.

Option #2: Installing a complete suspension kit

The process is similar to above:

  1. After hanging the car and removing the wheel, unscrew the fastenings of the shock absorbers, hub, ball joint tip, suspension arm, and silent blocks.
  2. We remove the parts one by one, installing new sets.
  3. We complete the assembly, the ground clearance is lowered by 3 - 7 cm.

Note to the driver! Service center technicians do not recommend installing the air suspension on the Lada Granta yourself in “garage” conditions. Due to the complexity of the design, the work must be carried out by professionals. Subsequently, quality assurance will be provided.

Disadvantages of lowered suspension on Grant

  • limited vehicle operation area;
  • mandatory presence of a smooth road surface, absence of gravel, crushed stone, coarse and medium-sized stones;
  • restrictions on the number of transported cargo and passengers;
  • frequent need for technical inspection and maintenance;
  • premature failure of air suspension elements during frequent use in winter.

How best to make an understated Grant:

  • seek qualified assistance from service station specialists;
  • install components only under warranty;
  • exclude handicraft repairs.

Why is it necessary to increase clearance?

This is a photo from the roads of “Germany”, they have places “like in Russia”. A car with low ground clearance, after falling into such a hole, risks being left without a bumper

Increasing this parameter is necessary in many everyday situations, and not only when you want to stand out in traffic. For example, if a significant load on the rear axle leads to sagging of the car and the risk of damage to the bottom, then increasing the clearance may be the most relevant option.

“Powerful” speed bump with traces from cars. Someone took a good look at it

The need to increase ground clearance most often arises when driving on uneven roads, places with speed bumps, and so on. And, given the quality of the road surface in our country, increased ground clearance can be considered the most popular option, which is sometimes used even on production vehicles aimed specifically at our market.

Reviews

Positive
1.Vasily: I heard a lot about understatement, I decided to try it. I bought short springs. Installed it myself, nothing complicated. The car has become 5.0 cm lower. This is quite enough for me. My recommendations for car enthusiasts.
2.Kirill: I’ve been into tuning for two years now. During this time, I embellished the Grant a little, installed a spoiler, bought Titans, and installed mechanical adjustable shock absorbers. Now you can’t travel over rough terrain, but it’s beautiful.
3.Vladimir: I live in the city, the roads are good, a clearance height of 160 mm is useless. I didn’t spend money on buying pneumatics; I cut one coil on the front springs and two on the rear springs myself. It turned out well. My recommendations.
4.Ivan: on the advice of his comrades, he installed the short ones, the car “sank” by three centimeters. That's enough for me, I don't need any more.
5.Vladlen: I saved money for a whole year and recently installed an air suspension on Grant. I spent about 50 thousand, but the effect is simply stunning.
6.Victor: I spent a long time choosing a way to lower the car, and eventually turned to a service station for advice. Since there is no money for pneumatics, I installed shock absorbers with a mechanical height adjuster. It even turned out very well.
7.Igor: I decided to try short springs, I installed them myself with a friend. It turned out well, the car looks cool, not like everyone else’s.
Negative
1.Victor: After installing shock absorbers with a mechanical regulator, I was dissatisfied. The clearance height was not enough to drive on the road surface; it was constantly caught by the oil pan protection. I put the factory ones back in place.
2.Vyacheslav: after six months of using the short ones, I returned the factory springs. It became uncomfortable to drive over bumps, the bottom was constantly clinging, and in places the sills were damaged.
3.Kirill: I don’t recommend handicraft tuning; it’s better to raise funds and install an air suspension.

Conclusion

The lowered stance on the Grant is beautiful, but not practical if you live in rough terrain. In everyday life, such tuning is not useful. The final decision is up to the car owner.

What are the disadvantages of understating Vesta?

  • Well, naturally, now you will have to drive over bumps more carefully and slowly. There is a risk of the bottom or front bumper hitting bumps and bumps on the road.
  • You will also have to be more careful when parking. Opening the doors should also be included in this point; after lowering the VAZ, most likely you will hit the curb with the bottom of the doors.
  • Outside the city and on rough terrain, on such a lowered Vesta, you have a very high chance of damaging your car. The road to some places will simply be closed to you. On unclean roads, your bumper will be more susceptible to damage and act as a snow shovel.
  • In winter, most likely, snow will collect and stick in narrower arches, which will one way or another cause you some inconvenience.

My opinion…

But, be that as it may, in my opinion, all these advantages are insignificant compared to the above disadvantages. In addition, in order to reassure those who are planning to lower the Lada Vesta, but are worried about ground clearance and ground clearance, I want to add a few words from myself. Reducing the ground clearance on Vesta is not an excess or some kind of ridiculous tuning, and it is not a tribute to fashion. Lowering Vesta is, indeed, a necessary measure that can significantly improve a number of indicators of this car, as well as make its appearance more rapid and attractive. This event should be considered simply a correction of one of AvtoVAZ’s many “jambs”. In general, this is a mistake that needs to be corrected so that the car becomes the way it was originally intended.

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