Reviews of the Lada Granta automatic, the pros and cons of automatic transmission

Types of boxes on "Granta"

The front-wheel drive Lada Granta has been produced by Avtovaz JSC since 2011. It is important for the driver that it is convenient and easy to control the speed of the car. This factor is determined by the type of gearbox. In 2022, the transmission of a popular car is not only manual, automatic, but also robotic.

"Lada Granta" automatic

In the next generation, the designers promise to install a CVT on the Grant. The concern's designers plan to use Jatco products. CVTs from this manufacturer are mounted on Lada Vesta.

Technical specifications

Initially, the Granta was designed with a VAZ manual 5-speed transmission with index 2180. This box has a shift rod with a gear selection system. Since then, the manual transmission has been modernized several times.

A new variation of the gearbox came off the assembly line a year later. It was assigned the index 2181. The following elements were changed:

• instead of the shift rod, 2 cables were installed;
• the speed selection system is mounted on top of the box;
• The clutch housing has been improved, this has reduced the oil filling volume by 30%.

Thanks to the use of a cable system, vibration in the body has decreased, and speeds have become more clearly switched. In 2014, as a result of improved processing technology for gears and shafts, the noise when the machine moved was reduced.

Automated gear shifting for the machine model in question began to be installed in 2012. Uses JF414E with torque converter, 4 stages. Comes complete with engine 21126. In automatic transmissions, designers recommend using original oil, the recommended brand is ATF Genuine EJ-1. When buying a cheaper product, there is a risk of getting a fake. Gasoline consumption is higher than that of a manual.

The expensive automatic transmission was replaced by the AMT 2182, a robot. Its production began in 2015. The mechanical model became the basic one. An electromechanical drive manufactured by the German company ZF is installed instead of the cables and clutch pedal. The 5-speed robot gearbox is combined with the VAZ-21127 engine. This is a powerful (106 horsepower) engine.

Each vehicle has a passport. This document records not only information about the owner, but also the main technical characteristics of the car, including the type of transmission.

Advantages

Mechanical cars are distinguished by their unpretentiousness and endurance. This is the most affordable, simple and reliable transmission. The cost of a vehicle with a manual transmission is lower than that of a vehicle equipped with an automatic transmission or a manual transmission. The owner can independently diagnose the manual transmission using a simple test.

Reviews of the Lada Granta automatic transmission speak of its advantages:

• high strength;
• wear resistance;
• comfortable control;
• reliability.

If all maintenance requirements and operating rules are met, such a car can easily travel over 200 thousand km without repair. All automatic transmission breakdowns are associated with improper operation and improper maintenance of the machine.

The manual transmission works properly in 2 modes: automatic, manual. Compared to an automatic, the Granta AMT is much more economical. In addition, robotic AMT has the following advantages:

• manufacturability;
• modernity;
• significant improvement in dynamics;
• less gasoline consumption.

Since the manual transmission is based on the 2180 gearbox, when the vehicle is moving there is no loud hum, like with the 2181 manual transmission.

Flaws

Although the modified manual transmission is characterized by improved parameters, the disadvantages of this type of gearbox remain. When switching 2nd gear, some car owners note a crunching sound. Despite the cable drive of the box, gear shifting is not clear enough. When operating at 2nd and 3rd speed, the machine sometimes begins to howl and vibration is observed.

The Lada automatic requires frequent maintenance. If we ignore the higher cost of the car, higher fuel consumption, a slight decrease in acceleration speed, there are no other complaints about this type of transmission. Automatic transmission malfunctions occur more often due to the fault of those sitting behind the wheel:

• if you tow frequently, the clutches quickly burn out;
• after overheating, leakage of gaskets and seals may occur;
• If you hit an obstacle, the casing may be damaged.

Lada Granta with automatic transmission requires frequent maintenance

Let's look at the disadvantages of a robotic gearbox. Although the model is technologically advanced and modern, it has quite a few problems. The main disadvantages are:

• Manual transmission is much inferior to traditional automatic transmissions in terms of smooth shifting and convenience. Single-disc boxes of this type are obsolete: during their operation, delays are possible, jerks and shocks occur.
• Although there is no loud hum, a whine can often be heard when moving through the first two gears. But it is worth noting that after the new car is broken in, after a while the transmission stops howling.
• Occasionally, a robotic gearbox behaves abnormally. This is expressed in the fact that when moving in first gear and sharply pressing the acceleration lever, 2nd speed does not immediately engage.

The main disadvantage of the AMT gearbox is that when driving rapidly, jerks and jolts are observed at the moment of switching gears. The driver is recommended to switch to manual transmission, and then the robotic gearbox will practically turn into mechanics. When operating the vehicle in a quiet speed mode, this disadvantage does not exist.

Features of automatic transmission maintenance

Jatco transmissions do not require close attention. They are easy to maintain.

Automatic transmission parts are similar to its relatives:

• RE4F03A;
• JF403E.

This makes it cheap to repair. The design characteristics are simplified as much as possible, since it is installed on budget cars.

The oil change in a Jatco automatic transmission can be done by the car owner himself or by specialists at service stations.

Checking the oil level and condition in the Jatco automatic transmission

You can use any lubricant for automobile automatic transmissions. In addition, analogues such as Dexron 6 can be poured into it.

Checking the presence of transmission fluid in the Jatco automatic transmission is done using a dipstick when the engine is warm. Some experts advise checking the level and condition of the oil using the overflow tube by removing the plug from the bottom of the pan.

After traveling 200 thousand kilometers, experts recommend installing an external fine filter. This is done in order to avoid small debris from entering the valve body, which appears due to wear of the clutches. Since the metal mesh, which is an internal filter, will not be able to contain these particles.

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Attention! It is recommended to do the first change of transmission fluid in JF414E automatic transmissions after driving 80 thousand kilometers. And the subsequent ones - after 60 thousand kilometers.

Replacing transmission fluid in a Jatco automatic transmission

If the owner decides to change the oil himself, then below are instructions on the correct procedure for changing the transmission fluid.

1. Unscrew the transmission fluid drain plug “JF414E”.
2. Place a container to drain and wait until the oil is drained.
3. Remove sixteen pan mounting bolts.
4. Using napkins, clean the inside of it from old oil.
5. Remove the oil filter.
6. Clean the filter element.
7. Reassemble the pallet in the same sequence and put it in place.
8. Pour 1.5 liters of transmission fluid into the place where the dipstick is inserted.
9. Insert the dipstick. Start the engine.
10. Drive the car until the oil warms up to 80 degrees Celsius.
11. Drive onto a level area and check the level.
12. If necessary, add oil.

Owner reviews about the Lada Granta checkpoint

We present our review of the opinions of car enthusiasts who have experience in operating the Lada Granta. Objective information will help a potential buyer make a choice.

Positive

Good reviews for the Lada Granta Cross car with a 5 AMT transmission. The car body type is station wagon. The car reaches speeds of up to 100 km/h in 10-12 seconds. Owners note the ease of repair and maintenance. Despite its compact size, the car has a spacious trunk, and the interior is quite spacious. The Lada Granta Cross is significantly cheaper than similar SUVs.

Spacious interior of the Lada Granta

There are positive reviews about the "Grant" robot. The owners of the Lada Granta Liftback are mostly satisfied with this model. The car is fast but economical. It has the optimal combination of cost and technical characteristics. Maximum speed is 183 km/h, take-off run is 12 seconds. The same model, but with an automatic transmission, consumes more fuel, the maximum speed is lower (174 km/h), and the acceleration time is more than 13 seconds.

Owners of Lada Granta Hatchback with 5 MT transmission are satisfied with this model. The car is economical and reliable. Speeds up to 170 km/h. Engine power is 64 kW (87 horsepower) at 5100 rpm. On the secondary market you can purchase such a model at affordable prices (lower range 200-210 thousand rubles).

Negative

Experts note that the Grants platform is very outdated, because it is already almost thirty years old. A significant disadvantage is the rigidity of the body, the lack of solidity in corners due to the light front end. There is not enough feedback on the steering wheel of the car.

Handling leaves much to be desired, so for car enthusiasts who consider this criterion the most important, the Lada Granta is not a suitable option.

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Review of the Lada Granta car (2018)

How did I come to buy a Lada Granta? I was looking for a car that was a) new, b) inexpensive (up to one million rubles), c) interesting in appearance. Now, of course, many people said that for a million you can get a used BMW, Audi and much more, but I wanted a new car.

This budget included, first of all, Rio Solaris, but then logic came into play. Or stinginess. To be honest, the toad is choking me to pay more than 650 thousand rubles for a Solaris or Rio with air conditioning, music and heating of the fifth point.

So I was brought into the Lada salon. I didn’t really follow the news, and I even knew that the updated Granta was going on sale on September 1st. After talking with the manager, I found out that there are now discounts on the Grant and it can be purchased in the Lux configuration for 500 thousand, but this is still in the old body. And then I caught fire! 500 thousand, new. We started looking on the Internet for other options for discount promotions, and found out that Granta-Restyle was coming out! Back to the car showroom, Granta with a new body is not for sale yet (it was August 30), but you can already see the car in the warehouse. From a distance I thought it was Vesta, but as I got closer I saw the differences.

I decided to take this particular car – coriander color, Comfort equipment. I made a deposit of 5 thousand, I’m waiting for sales to start. On September 1, I was ready to pick up the car (the title was available), but it turned out that the factory had put it on some kind of stop list and the dealer couldn’t do anything. They said - wait. In frustrated feelings, I headed towards the house without a car, calling all the car dealerships in Samara on the way home. I got through to the dealer in Almaatinka and he told me, they say, come and have a car, the title will be available tomorrow! My happiness knew no bounds. I arrived, booked, and with a happy face, on September 5 I became the proud owner of a Lada Granta FL sedan, 16-valve 106 hp engine. With. The car cost 549,500 rubles.

Convenience and reliability of automatic transmission on Lada Granta

There is an opinion among experts that the Japanese classic 4-speed automatic transmission Jatco JF414E (AY-K3) is the most reliable and wear-resistant part of the Lada Granta. Motorists note that its service life is longer than that of all other components of this model. And indeed, this automatic transmission is time-tested: in addition to Lada and Datsun, this gearbox was installed on Nissan, Micra and Almera. Now mounted on Geely MK. Other automatic transmissions of this family were installed on Nissan Note, Daewoo Matiz, and Kia Picanto.

Signs of a Jatco automatic transmission failure

Frequent malfunctions of the Jatco automatic transmission are:

• oxidation of solenoid contacts. The latter quickly fail if the owner ignores the advice on installing an external filter;
• violation of wire insulation. The electrical part of the automatic transmission is afraid of voltage surges and therefore the electrical board often burns along with the wires if it is not properly “lit” from the battery;
• rupture of wires and connecting clamps.

The hydraulic unit may also fail. This happens mainly due to the fact that when changing the oil, the pan was not cleaned of old transmission fluid or low-quality cheap oil was filled in.

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The main cause of oil leakage in a Jatco automatic transmission can be old rubber gaskets. Therefore, it is recommended to change oil seals and gaskets in a timely manner, preventing them from drying out or aging. Since this will cause the problem of low transmission fluid level. And oil starvation can damage the bushings.

Comparison with competitors - do they even exist?

And again we must honestly admit that the car has no special rivals. If you are looking for a new car with an automatic transmission, a large trunk and a good practical engine for just over 600,000 rubles, you have no choice at all. You can only compare with those price rivals that are sold for the same money, but with much worse configuration

But we tried to pay attention specifically to competitors with automatic transmissions

You should pay attention to the following offers:

1. Ravon R4. For the same money you can buy a second version of the Uzbek Ravon with good contents. The 1.5 engine is very simple and practical, the 6-speed gearbox will also not let you down. The car will become a real competitor for the Grant, given the price equality.
2. FAW Besturn B50. It may be an outdated car, but it still competes with cars in the lower classes. FAW has good build quality and some pretty enviable technology on board. The 1.6 engine with 103 horsepower is also not bad.
3. Datsun on-DO. This is the same Granta, slightly modified by Japanese engineers. The machine is not bad, but it is in dire need of updating. The outdated design and 87 horsepower engine take this car a little away from the competitive environment for the Granta.
4. Changan Eado. Another Chinese who can slightly interrupt AvtoVAZ's trade. This car was well received in our market, thanks to its excellent 113 horsepower engine and quite presentable Japanese automatic. And the sales of the car itself are very good.

These are the rivals on the market in the same price class as the domestic Granta. The question remains about why it is more profitable for Uzbeks to produce a car even a little larger, transport it to our region and sell it even cheaper than AvtoVAZ does with a car of a lower class. It is Ravon who should be considered as the main rival who is worth your attention. It is superior to Granta in many ways, but at the same time costs the same money.

We invite you to watch a video review of the new liftback from Lada:

Advantages and disadvantages of a liftback car

The similarities and differences between a liftback and a hatchback and sedan make cars of this body type the most popular and attractive. They are chosen by car owners from all over the world. From the sedan, the liftback has adopted a presentable appearance, as well as a streamlined body shape, which make it an ideal option for moving in a metropolis, since the aerodynamic capabilities of the car are significantly increased. From the hatchback he got a spacious luggage compartment, which gives him the ability to transport large items. The liftback is great for those who like to go on picnics and travel around cities, because the trunk will accommodate everything they need on the road.

The main disadvantage of this type of body, as in a hatchback, is the penetration of foreign odors from the luggage compartment and longer heating of the interior. The elongated body, like that of a sedan, causes worse maneuverability. Nevertheless, many owners claim that the liftback body is a unique variety and the best that car designers could come up with.

Design

As for the design of the new Lada Granta 2022 car, it has undergone truly revolutionary changes. Among the main neoplasms are:

• The front part is created in the original style of the latest modifications of the concern. It is characterized by a powerful X-shaped bumper in dark colors, which is equipped with a radiator grille.
• The modification of the grille includes three massive longitudinal elements, which provide dynamism and an original appearance. This shape allows you to significantly increase engine cooling.
• The head optics have become elongated and oblong; they are slightly pointed at the point where they merge with the grille.
• In the lower position of the bumper there are fog lights of a certain shape with a slight slope and wide air intakes.
• In place of the molding there is a regular-looking stamping, which, together with the side mirrors and sloping roof, provide stability and elegance to the appearance.
• At the rear, the shape of the headlights with black color inserts stands out effectively; it combines with the whole restyled image of the car.

All changes in the form of the new Lada Granta 2022 are clearly reflected in the photographs presented. They undoubtedly added dynamic qualities, reliability and aggressiveness to the car.

Summarizing

As many experts in this field note, the Granta has become more than similar to a modern car. The consumer qualities of the car have significantly improved: a spacious and comfortable interior, a new and convenient instrument cluster coupled with ergonomic seats, as well as a spacious luggage compartment.

Of course, in technical terms, our cars are inferior to “foreigners,” and this is understandable - the Europeans and the same Koreans have gone far, and it is simply unreasonable to chase them headlong. It was important for AvtoVAZ to make a new, affordable and high-quality product that would meet the minimum needs of the domestic buyer. And, in principle, he succeeded.

No need for dirt

The angle of the rear part of the body was carefully worked out from an aerodynamic point of view. At the same time, VAZ designers assure that the sloping rear window in rainy weather is perfectly cleaned by air flows. That is why the basic “Standard” configuration does not have a rear windshield wiper. However, it is installed on cars in the “Norma” and “Lux” versions. Perhaps just to justify their higher cost?

However, this is nothing more than an “engineering and marketing” incident. What is more important is how the issue of body rigidity is resolved

Since cars in 5-door modifications, unlike sedans, do not have a reinforcing “bulkhead” in the rear, designers have to pay special attention to the rigidity of the liftback body. As Lada Granta project manager Sergei Medinets told the website, the five-door has a reinforced roof, a floor in the middle of the cabin (in the area of ​​the rear passengers’ feet and under the rear seat cushion), a middle spar (in the area where the rear suspension arms are attached), and the design of the middle spar amplifiers has been changed.

Why is the manufacturer positioning Grant with a fifth door as a liftback? Yes, it’s very simple - the “niche” of hatchbacks is already occupied, very similar in design to Granta.