Hello, dear friends! Today we will be a little creative, reflect and prepare the ground for further action. And why all? Yes, because the topic of our conversation will be tuning the Lada Largus.
This is a popular car in Russia and the CIS countries, which is closely associated with the French auto company Renault and received a lot from it. Therefore, the current Lada Largus compares favorably with outdated domestic station wagons.
Yes, Largus is a full-fledged station wagon or van, as some are used to saying. Even the presence of the prefix Cross in the name does not make it a full-fledged crossover.
I would like to discuss with you possible improvements for the Lada Largus, and also separately tell you a little about the Cross version. If you are ready, then we can begin.
What types of firmware are there for a car?
With the development of electronics in cars, firmware for reflashing the engine began to develop. It's no secret that the units of modern cars are essentially separate units that are controlled electronically. Depending on the wishes of the car owner, firmware is divided into two main classes, those that are designed to reduce fuel economy and those that help increase power and torque. In addition to the two main firmwares, there are three other firmwares, making a total of five different options for flashing a car engine.
The most common firmwares are:
- Class “A” - intended for non-standard equipment in a car, often limited versions of car models;
- “B” or in other words Butan, firmware designed to improve the performance of an engine running on liquefied gas and use it as fuel. Such flashing is used during the installation of gas equipment on modern cars, where it is necessary to modify the standard program of the car;
- third option “C” - used when a non-standard camshaft is installed in a car engine, each model has such a series or batch of cars;
- the penultimate “D” stands for Dynamic, this re-flashing of the engine is designed to increase power and torque, in other words it is a change in the dynamics of the car;
- the last class “E” - firmware for reducing fuel consumption and adjusting engine efficiency, also designated as Economical.
As a rule, cars with an on-board computer are subject to engine flashing; it is these cars that have a special control unit and a factory mechanical part for controlling the unit designed for this purpose.
Improved gas dynamics
The most common method of increasing cylinder filling is to improve gas dynamics. But it is the most unguaranteed... With this method, the channels and combustion chamber are modified.
First, we increase the volume of the cylinders as much as possible. We do not use the camshaft, that is, the torque curve remains in the old speed range. As a result, we get a more dynamic car, without the driver having to change his driving style.
To increase the working volume of the cylinders, instead of the standard crankshaft, we install a part with a large eccentricity or bore the cylinders for pistons of a larger cross-section while maintaining the correct geometry. This is done on a high-precision machine.
The first option seems less expensive, but it has its own nuances. Finding a crankshaft with a large eccentricity is quite difficult. Basically, they are produced individually, and even then not all enterprises. Therefore, it is easier to purchase a standard product and select a piston group for it.
Naturally, you cannot do without new pistons and connecting rods. However, standard connecting rods will not fit a crankshaft with a large eccentricity - you need to install shortened ones, and they will provoke additional mechanical losses in the operation of the internal combustion engine due to increased movement resistance. In addition, short connecting rods are less reliable because they experience greater loads.
From this we conclude that the option with cylinder boring is less expensive. The thickness of the cylinder wall allows you to obtain additional volume by increasing the diameter by 1-2 mm without loss of strength. At the same time, you don’t need to bother with finding special pistons - serial models, of course, with a larger diameter, will do. Boring cylinder blocks in a car repair shop will cost 1200-1600 rubles.
How to uniquely transform your car?
A car has not been considered a luxury for a long time. This is a convenient means of transportation. Need to pick up your child from kindergarten? Give your spouse a ride to work? Or go shopping at the store? Having your own car will simplify these and many other tasks. But I want the vehicle to be special, not like others. It is for this reason that, in pursuit of exclusivity and originality, many car owners work hard on its appearance. Tuning is the improvement of a car. Even if you have the most expensive car, you will still want to change something about it. It's always nice to be the center of attention. A beautiful car will emphasize the social status of its owner and, of course, his sense of taste.
In this case, the best option would be to seek help from a technical service center!
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Reflashing a car engine, all the pros and cons
Is it possible to reflash the engine or not, what are the pros and cons of such procedures. See flashing options, features, price of flashing and consequences. At the end of the article there is a video review of engine chip tuning.
- What is flashing
- Power Options
- Firmware classification
- How to reflash an engine
- Pros and cons of flashing
- Tuning price
- Video
Sooner or later, every car owner wants to get more power from the engine of the iron horse, as well as stable operation. There are a lot of options on how to increase power and what needs to be done for this, and each has both pros and cons. In a word, such a modification is considered tuning and the opinions of experienced drivers are divided into positive and negative.
Positive feedback from car owners regarding engine reflashing includes increased power, more stable operation and confident running. On the negative side, many say that incorrectly reflashing the engine will simply kill the unit and the car as a whole after a short period of time. To understand what engine flashing is and what it is used for, let’s go through the main details of this chip tuning unit.
Improved visibility
The headlights are taken from the second generation Logan, in a simple version - without LEDs in the running lights. They shine with dignity: brightly and evenly.
Access for lamp replacement remains good. You can see more in the side mirrors. Their bodies, by the way, are from Vesta, with LED turn signal repeaters in all trim levels.
The right mirror is no longer blocked by the body pillar. The rear view camera is a good addition to the parking sensors.
Minus:
The rear view camera does not have a washer - although the Niva Travel has one. There are no dynamic marking lines on the display (Vesta has them).
The process of flashing a car engine
At first glance, flashing a car engine seems like a simple procedure. I connected to the control unit via a special cord, selected the appropriate firmware and the process started. But in reality, if you want to achieve the expected result, you will need to work and spend more than one day of time.
The first thing the process of flashing a car engine begins with is determining the purpose of flashing (fuel savings, increasing power or modifying the unit). To carry out this procedure, you will need a desktop computer or laptop (most often) with previously configured software and a special cord for connecting to the OBD port of the car.
Depending on the make and model of the car, the control unit can be located differently, in front under the panel, outside under the hood, under the seat, or even in the trunk of the car. But most often it is located in the front of the car, this is both convenient and accessible for flashing the car engine. It is better not to describe the process of flashing a car engine, reading, modifying and refilling, since it is different for each make, model, and even year of manufacture or submodel of the car. The main stages of flashing a car engine are adjusting the factory firmware and testing the results of the modification.
It would not be superfluous to take measurements before flashing the car’s engine, that is, its acceleration dynamics, fuel consumption and other parameters, and carry out a similar procedure after chip tuning the engine. In this case, it will immediately become clear whether there are positive results from such engine flashing or whether the performance has only worsened. You should never rule out the case when you turned to a bad specialist and instead of improving the parameters, they will only get worse, and the shortcomings of engine flashing will kill the unit and components over time.
Ignition switch illumination
Illumination of the ignition switch is a rather convenient “feature” when the car is frequently used at night in poorly or unlit places.
To modify the ignition switch and install the backlight, a minimum of parts are required, and all the work, including the connection, takes about an hour.
After some simple manipulations with the ignition switch, you will not experience any difficulties when using the car in the dark.
To work you need:
- LED of small diameter, for example, 2.5–3 mm;
- resistance 1–1.5 kOhm;
- the wire.
To install the backlight, you need to remove the lock cover. It is removed together with the immobilizer antenna, and then remove the top cover of the casing.
At the second stage, the LED is installed inside the lock housing. To ensure uniform illumination, small slits can be made in the housing, after which the casing is assembled and installed in place. The wires coming from the LED are pulled to the CEBCS unit and connected to the white connector. To connect the wires, you can use gray or white wires - this is a “minus”. For “plus”, either of the two red wires is used.
Connecting to the CEBKS unit allows you to get the lighting to work similar to turning on the interior lamp - it lights up when the Lada Largus is disarmed, when the doors are opened, and goes out either after the doors are closed or after the ignition is turned on.
Chip tuning is a panacea for correcting shortcomings
Often, drivers are not satisfied with the engine dynamics due to a trivial malfunction, which the owner simply is not aware of due to incompetence. Chip tuning will not help fix such a breakdown, but it will help diagnose it. For example, bad spark plugs or ignition coils, holes in the exhaust pipes, a faulty flow meter or fuel pump - these are just some of the problems that were addressed to AGP Motorsport, hoping to improve the car's dynamics with chip tuning. If the car has faults that prevent the engine from reaching its potential, AGP Motorsport can diagnose and repair the car.
And in what cases does it make sense to do more serious tuning of the chassis?
For driving on public roads, as a rule, no modifications are required. The car manufacturer has already included in it the most optimal, average indicators of smoothness and handling and, guided by the dynamic characteristics, has selected the necessary equipment.
It’s another matter if the car is planned to be used for some kind of sports competition. That’s when they work magic on the engine, the chassis is almost completely redesigned, and in general, only the body remains from the production car, and even that is reinforced by the frame.
But I believe that our blog is unlikely to be read by athletes, especially since they probably have at their disposal some kind of workshop with automotive professionals, so let’s talk about something else... about what concerns ordinary car enthusiasts who do not like the average factory settings.
As a rule, when talking about the chassis of a car, the issue of balance between the smoothness of the car's ride and its handling is raised. There are two extremes - you can drive very comfortably, almost not noticing irregularities on the road, but at the same time the car will sway and roll heavily in turns, respond slowly and not very accurately to steering commands.
And the other extreme is excellent controllability, but at the same time, every small pebble will be felt literally by the whole body, passing through the fifth point along the spine to the brain.
And literally all automakers are looking for in each of their car models that ideal balance between handling and comfort that would be accepted by the majority of their potential buyers.
But, unfortunately, not every car enthusiast can afford to buy a car that would meet all his requirements.
Therefore, many people have a desire to modify the car that is available.
As a rule, when it comes to tuning the chassis, they strive to improve the handling of the car, which makes sense.
After all, not only the driving sensation, but also the safety of the driver, as well as all his passengers, depends on the performance of the car’s suspension.
Everything is in its place (almost!)
The ergonomics of the old Largus with the interior from the “first” Logan was peculiar - everything was out of place. Now almost everything has been fixed. Except that the joystick for adjusting the mirrors was left under the handbrake. The dashboard is shared by Duster, the front seats are shared by XRAY, the instrument cluster is shared by XRAY Cross, the steering wheel is shared by Vesta.
The seat heating buttons moved to the center console (finally!), and the power window buttons moved to the doors.
Convenient control buttons for cruise, speed limiter and music appeared on the steering wheel. Expensive versions have multimedia with a color touchscreen.
Minus:
The multimedia screen is located very low - you have to stretch and take your eyes off the road. But everything is better than the simplest single-din radio that was before.
Ways to increase car engine power
Over time, many drivers begin to think about how to increase the engine power of their car. There are a lot of options and possibilities for this, from the simplest and least expensive to the most effective.
Engine power is determined by the amount of fuel burned, as well as combustion efficiency. Fully burned fuel ensures maximum engine efficiency.
Atmospheric engines are too constrained in terms of seriously increasing power, due to the inability to push a lot of air into the cylinders. The problem was solved by installing a turbine, which made it possible to extract 1.5-2 times more power from the engine with an equal cylinder volume than that of an aspirated engine.
Is mechanics forever?
There is no automated transmission and there never will be. Brand representatives do not directly say “no”, but they clearly hint.
A robot with one clutch is leaving the VAZ range. The four-speed automatic DP2 is old and cannot be combined with VAZ engines (this work would have to be done from scratch). The CVT will require the introduction of a 113-horsepower engine into the range, and such a power plant would greatly increase the price of the station wagon. And Largus’ target audience is very sensitive to price increases.
Lightweight flywheel and forged pistons
A lightweight flywheel is installed on tuned cars quite often, as it gives good results with a comprehensive modification of the engine. The bottom line is that a lightweight flywheel is lighter (no matter how it sounds), so it spins up faster and reaches maximum speed faster. As a result, it turns out that the engine power increases, but the maximum you can get is 4% from the previous one.
Replacing this part is not difficult, so anyone can make this modification. Such a flywheel costs an average of 2-4 thousand rubles, depending on the car. If you do not plan to greatly increase the indicator we need, then this type of modification will suit you along with a zero-resistance filter, chip tuning, compression and other light modifications, which together will give a good result for enjoying the speed characteristics of the car.
Forged pistons are very often installed by many tuning enthusiasts, and racing drivers also leave positive reviews about them. The bottom line is that a forged piston moves easier due to its lighter weight, and it will also withstand higher temperature loads because it is stronger.
Refinement of the stove motor
This part, probably, would have been better called “Refinement of the heater motor activation mode”, since we will be talking specifically about eliminating a kind of “bug” - the operation of the interior heater when the ignition key is turned to the ACC position.
Indeed, the functionality of the interior heating system is in big question when the “stove” motor is turned on and the engine is not running - there is no circulation of coolant, and the coolant in the “stove” will quickly cool down and stop heating the interior.
The interior heating system of the Lada Largus can be modified in several ways
For Largus owners, there are two ways to change the operating mode of the heater motor. And both, unfortunately, require intervention in the electrical circuit of the car.
First
The first way to change the operating mode of the interior heater simultaneously with turning on the ignition is to move the wire that controls the heater relay from its standard location to any terminal that receives + 12V when the ignition is turned on. This could be, for example, a reverse switch or a fuel pump relay. That is, the thin yellow wire going to the “stove” motor relay is cut off and connected to any of the above locations.
Modernization of the body of the Largus model
We have seen that in some cases it is not difficult to transform the characteristics of a motor, although an infusion of a certain financial resource is required.
What should an owner do if he is “satisfied” with the modernized engine, but is not satisfied with the appearance of the body? Here the saving measure will be a transformation in the exterior of the Lada Largus.
In this case, you can also lean towards two courses of action:
- perform structural transformation of body components;
- so-called cosmetic modification.
The first option involves replacing some body elements with new products, usually of an individual design. Note that a well-executed modification of this nature can not only significantly transform the exterior of the car, giving it speed and sportiness, but also significantly improve aerodynamic performance.
The most common structural modifications that most owners of Lada Largus Cross are inclined towards are the following:
- spoiler installation;
- installation of body kit on the hood (linings, buckets, intakes, etc.);
- replacing head and rear optics with more advanced and powerful lighting designs;
- the use of reinforcing components around the perimeter of the body (front grille, protective linings, skirts, etc.);
- installation of new wheels complete with tires instead of standard products;
- replacement of bumpers, exterior mirrors, etc.
Naturally, such transformations cost a lot of money and require the allocation of significant time resources.
A simpler version of the transformation will be cosmetic tuning. It involves the implementation of activities in the following areas:
- updating the paintwork of the body;
- tinting of glass, as well as optical devices;
- airbrushed designs on body panels;
- wrapping the body with various polymer materials (carbon films, vinyl, etc.);
- use of additional LED lighting sources.
Such events can provide the Lada Largus Cross with an updated look, allowing it to stand out in the gray mass of traffic. The main advantage of this method is its low cost.
Results
As you can see, Lada Largus allows its owners to go wild in terms of tuning. It is important to choose one or another modernization option carefully, taking into account your desires, preferences, improvement goals and, importantly, capabilities. Don’t forget, tuning a car is a rather expensive undertaking that may require investing a considerable amount of money into its implementation.
Summarizing the previously presented material, we can draw the following conclusions:
- In terms of the technical part, you can improve the Lada Largus in two main ways: by tuning either the engine or the suspension. The first upgrade option will help improve the dynamics of the car, and the second will help improve its stability.
- If priorities in tuning are given to appearance, then restyling the exterior of the body is optimal. You can also modernize the interior of the car, but this measure is aimed at increasing aesthetic comfort specifically for the people in the car.
- The remaining tuning options are more or less applied to the two main ones mentioned in the two previous paragraphs. An additional type of modernization is determined taking into account the preferences of a particular car owner.
In general, you can do tuning of the Lada Largus with your own hands if you know what exactly needs to be improved and have some car repair skills. In other cases, it is better to entrust modernization to professionals with a service station. We hope the material presented above will help you determine the vector of your movement in tuning your car. Good luck with the modernization and on the roads!
Video review of how you can tune the Lada-Largus-Cross:
How to upgrade a mediocre Lada Largus station wagon to a top version for little money?
LADA > Largus
Largus is a great car. There is no alternative to it in the class of affordable seven-seater cars. But after the March price increase, they began to ask a lot of money for it: a seven-seater version (there is also a five-seater) with an 84-horsepower engine is priced at 549,000 rubles. And this is the initial performance of “Norma” - no luggage rails, no “music”...
What is this
Let's start with the question of what car tuning is. For some reason, many people consider auto tuning a new trend in the world of cars. But in reality, the first modifications to vehicles began literally as soon as the first production models began to be produced at the beginning of the 20th century.
The reasons for tuning at that time were no different from today. This is the desire to make the car more individual, highlight its features and highlight it against the general background. The desire for individuality has not disappeared over many decades, but has only intensified. It forces car owners to change the external and internal appearance of their iron horse, as well as adjust standard technical capabilities.
It is impossible to deny the fact that previously only young car enthusiasts were engaged in tuning. But now improvements are increasingly of interest to adults and sensible people. This is due to the ability to optimize the operation of the car, reduce the cost of its maintenance through some changes to the factory version of the car. There are a number of measures to reduce fuel consumption through modernization.
Tuning is aimed not only at improving existing capabilities, but also at creating new functions. The choice of direction largely depends on what specific goals the car owner is pursuing.
Some strive to create an outwardly exquisite masterpiece on the basis of a standard factory car, that is, they are purely interested in changes in external perception. Others want to increase comfort and make being inside the car as pleasant as possible.
And there is also a category of motorists who do not care so much how the car looks on the outside or on the inside. The main thing for them is to achieve maximum power, increase acceleration dynamics and improve technical parameters
In this regard, tuning does not have a clear definition. These are any works, procedures and activities aimed at changing the design, appearance, factory settings and functions.
It is also worth noting what is considered car tuning from the position of the traffic police or traffic police. Every owner of a non-standard and modernized car will confirm that the State Traffic Inspectorate does not really like and feel sorry for such cars. This is due to possible violations that arise when changes are made to the design or technical component of the vehicle.
The same new audio system cannot be considered a violation, and is not included in the list of prohibited procedures for re-equipping a car. But if you install xenon that blinds oncoming cars, use dull tinting on the windshield, or boost the engine without changing the characteristics in the official documentation, expect fines and the possibility of confiscation of the vehicle until the faults are completely eliminated.
The choice of tuning must be approached very carefully and carefully. No one is against improving the vehicle’s cross-country ability, reducing fuel consumption, and increasing the level of comfort
But tuning should not have the opposite effect, manifested in the form of deterioration in handling, reduced safety or harm to other road users.
When doing something new, you should always be aware of the rules, regulations and laws. Going against the law is strongly discouraged. You can clearly see how illegal tuning is done and what it leads to in the end. When boosting the engine on a machine not intended for this purpose, there is a risk of loss of control and explosion of the power unit. Some modifications in the interior using a large list of volatile equipment lead to failure of the generator, short circuits and fires of the car, since it cannot withstand such loads.
Laws are invented for a reason, but with the goal of ensuring safe movement for all its participants.
Let's sum it up
Lada Largus Cross is a model that allows its owners to perform a wide variety of tuning and introduce all innovations to an unlimited extent. At the same time, you can do almost everything with your own hands. Here the main factor may be the financial component, which often determines in which direction tuning should be developed in a particular case. If this aspect does not concern the owner who is prone to transformation, then desires and preferences come to the fore.
The result of tuning the Lada Largus Cross will be not only a satisfied owner, but also a significantly transformed car; all innovations are the path to individuality, which is so rare in our time.
About the domestic VAZ 11189 engine
In April 2022, AvtoVAZ began installing domestic VAZ 11189 engines on Largus. The advantages of this engine are described in one of the issues of “Okay Mechanics”.
Some measurement results Autoreview | |||
Options | Cars | ||
Lada Largus (VAZ engine) | Lada Largus (Renault engine) | ||
Maximum speed, km/h | 157,1/156,7* | 168,0/167,6 | |
Acceleration time, s | 0—50 km/h | 4,3/4,8 | 3,9/4,4 |
0—100 km/h | 13,9/16,8 | 12,5/14,5 | |
0—150 km/h | 61,1/71,6 | 38,9/43,7 | |
on the way 400 m | 19,3/20,2 | 18,4/19,4 | |
on the way 1000 m | 36,1/37,8 | 34,1/36,0 | |
60-100 km/h (III) | 8,7/10,6 | 9,3/10,6 | |
60-100 km/h (IV) | 12,1/15,1 | 12,8/14,1 | |
80-120 km/h (V) | 19,3/24,0 | 22,1/23,4 | |
* Partial load/full load |
Engine characteristics | ||
Options | VAZ-11189 | Renault K4M |
Volume, cm 3 | 1596 | 1598 |
Number of valves | 8 | 16 |
Maximum power, hp/kW/rpm | 87/64/5100 | 102/75/5750 |
Maximum torque, Nm/rpm | 140/3800 | 145/3750 |
Cylinder diameter/piston stroke, mm | 82,0/ 75,6 | 79,5/80,5 |
Compression ratio | 10,3:1 | 9,8:1 |
Injection type | distributed, electronically controlled | |
Octane number of gasoline | at least 92 | not less than 95 |
Let us remind you that you can read about the VAZ 21129 engine here.
Key words: Lada Largus engine
Lada Largus Cross - 7-seater station wagon. Photos, configurations and prices, technical specifications
Lada Largus Cross is an “off-road” modification of the Lada Largus station wagon. The car differs from the basic version in its “off-road” body kit and in the fact that it is offered with only one 105 hp engine. The model has been produced since 2014.
Cost: 700,000 rub.
Technical characteristics of Lada Largus Cross
Body type: Crossover | Length: 4854 mm |
Number of seats: 5 – 7 | Width: 1904 mm |
Trunk volume: 809 (2430) l | Height: 1740 mm |
Configurations and prices of Lada Largus Cross
Modification | Engine | Transmission | Drive unit |
1.6MT | 1.6 l. / 102 hp / Gasoline | Mechanical | Front |
Suite 7 seats 700,000 rub. |
Chip tuning.
All modern car engines are controlled using electronic systems. And as a rule, the factory settings of machines coming off the assembly line are not designed for high power.
Mainly, the settings that manufacturers initially set are aimed at reducing fuel consumption, reducing exhaust toxicity and, of course, increasing service life.
No matter how the experts who deal with chip tuning assure you, any change in settings in the control unit cannot occur without damaging the life of the motor.
But this does not frighten fans of aggressive driving at all and they are ready to pay any amount for the sake of new firmware. But it’s worth making a reservation that such work can only be trusted to qualified specialists in auto centers.
Why go to professionals?
This is necessary because in authorized centers specialists use licensed firmware that is supplied to them by the manufacturer. And with the right approach, only qualified repairmen can correctly change the firmware.
Indeed, during this work, it is important to correctly take into account all the subtleties of tuning: throttle balancing, temperature indicators and the required amount of crankshaft rotation. Only strict and competent adherence to all parameters can guarantee the quality of reconfiguration
Reconfiguring the engine management system cannot be of high quality if your car has already lost its original characteristics or, more simply put, the engine has an impressive mileage.
Modernization of the motor design.
This method of making the engine more agile is considered a complex technological process. When carrying out modernization, the main engine parts are subject to modernization.
• Cylinder block.
This is one of the main parts; it is bored in order to install larger pistons.
• Pistons.
Special piston groups are installed from more durable alloys and with special notches, in accordance with the bored size of the block.
• Cylinder head
a new one is also installed or an old one is bored, but the first option will be more reliable.
• In addition to the main details
All associated consumables are replaced according to the new engine parameters.
All structural improvements are accompanied by the installation of additional devices that will contribute to the smooth operation of a completely new engine: turbochargers, superchargers, etc. All this is connected to a new electronic engine control system.
The most important thing that determines the correct operation of the modernized engine is the selection of special firmware. And therefore, the maximum result, which will really give the car more power, can only be achieved with a comprehensive solution.
To sum up all of the above, we can assure you that a positive result can only be achieved with special equipment and a qualified specialist.
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Lada Largus 7 seats price, photos, equipment and technical specifications
Impressive interior dimensions, modern body architecture, high-quality interior are the distinctive features of the Lada Largus 7 seats 2018.
Convenient sizes
The domestic auto industry giant took into account all the wishes of the station wagon owners when determining the parameters of the new Lada Largus 7-seater 2018 road car:
- comfortable seating for seven adults inside the cabin.
- practical transformation of the second and third row seats, allowing you to quickly convert the passenger compartment into a voluminous cargo compartment for business needs.
- The comfortable dimensions of the rear tailgates allow loading large items without problems.