As standard, cars of the Lada Granta family are not equipped with an air conditioning system. As necessary, owners install the equipment themselves, having previously purchased it from a car store.
The efficiency of the air conditioning system depends on the correct selection of the unit, its technical characteristics, power, and other indicators.
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I would like to share with you a post about installing the original Halla-visteon factory air conditioner (NOT AUGUST OR FROST) in GRANTA.
As it usually happens, either here on the drive, or on VKontakte in my group avtoklimat161, or in the advertisements on Avito, the owner of this grant found me...
The car is like a car and there is no air conditioner... Having told the owner about the options for installing new or used equipment, about the cost (new turnkey 50, used - 35), we agreed that we will install used equipment, especially since this year I have thoroughly stocked up on such equipment, because I think that new ones are sooooo expensive, but used ones, during pre-sale preparation, are no different in either quality or operational efficiency!
In my opinion, the Granta is best suited to be equipped with air conditioning. The installation process is not particularly complicated, a standard “locksmith” - unscrewed - removed - took another - installed - screwed.
But there are things with which there are problems with grants!
1. On cars without air conditioner there is NO belt tensioner mechanism! That is, you need to buy a Kalinovsky generator bracket with an adjusting screw and a roller.
So, if we have a kit with a three-pin sensor, but the computer “does not understand” it, then we need to solder a fitting into the high-pressure pipe to install another, four-pin pressure sensor. The connection diagram in the ECU connector also changes.
Otherwise, everything falls into place without problems.
I make the wiring harness myself so as not to change the factory engine compartment and interior harnesses (the process is the same)
We vacuum, then pump 500 grams of freon and meet the long-awaited degrees)))
For questions regarding the purchase and installation of air conditioners in 2110/Priora/Kalina/Grant/Chevy Niva, write in a personal message here, go to the VKontakte group avtoklimat161, or call 89185412751 or 89896232525. This number also has WhatsApp and Viber.
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What didn't customers like?
The main complaint against the developers is that cheap plastic was used to complete the machine. And this is noted by everyone, even those who were generally satisfied with Lada. An unpleasant synthetic smell in the cabin is a consequence of this deficiency. And the car has very poor sound insulation. The driver and passengers of the Lada must have strong nerves in order to calmly endure the terrible street noise that they will hear inside the car.
The front windows of the Lada Granta with air conditioning do not go all the way down, and this is not always convenient.
The lack of a sensor that measures the engine temperature also hinders. After some time, noises appear in the gearbox. Other little things bother people to varying degrees. But more often than not, these dissatisfactions are more like minor quibbles. And if you handle the machine correctly and carefully, you can avoid many breakdowns. There are many examples of how this machine serves its owners well. The service life that people indicate in their reviews speaks for itself. For example, one buyer wrote that his driving experience with this car was 4 years of active use.
There are more positive reviews on the Internet about the Lada Granta liftback car than negative ones. This does not indicate the ideal quality of the car, but it still makes you think about buying it. For the price category to which this Lada car model belongs, the quality is quite decent.
But in any case, everyone decides for themselves whether to buy a Lada or save up for a more expensive car.
As a rule, all Lada Granta cars are equipped with compression air conditioners. We will try to consider their design, possible malfunctions and methods for checking their effectiveness in this article.
How much does it cost to install air conditioning on a LADA car?
Not all LADA vehicle configurations are equipped with air conditioning. It often happens that a car without an air conditioner is operated in the south, so the owners of these regions often wonder whether it is possible to modify the design and install an air conditioner on the LADA with their own hands. We decided to find out how much such retrofitting would cost.
Evaporator check
The evaporator is located inside the car, it is located under the panel, and therefore it is very difficult to get to it. If it is heavily soiled, an unpleasant odor begins to spread in the cabin after turning on the air conditioning system. The car owner can clean the evaporator with his own hands; in addition, service stations also provide similar services.
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The cheapest way to install an air conditioner
Want to save money? Buy the necessary air conditioning components for your car model at a disassembly site, and do the installation and connection yourself. Reserve plenty of time, look for standard connection diagrams, instructions for disassembling the car and installing an air conditioner (pay attention to the Technological Instructions, which can be downloaded on our website).
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An example of self-installation of an air conditioner on a Lada Vesta from Denis21reg:
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An example of self-installation of an air conditioner on a Lada Granta from kuul:
Total: from 18,430 rubles
Popular way to install an air conditioner
Most often, car owners decide to buy an air conditioning installation kit, which includes everything necessary. Manufacturers of air conditioners for LADA are: August air conditioning plant, Frost LLC, etc.
Which option for installing a car air conditioner would you choose?
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Installing an air conditioner on a Lada Granta
A user of the DRIVE2.RU website under the nickname vtroshin installed a FROST air conditioner on his Lada Granta in the “Norma” configuration.
Well, this exciting moment came when I arrived at the service station of KRUMB-SERVICE LLC, where specialists from the FROST company installed an air conditioning kit for Granta on my car. The installation can be traced in detail using photographs; I will write about the results obtained after the summer heat, but for now all this can be seen on a device called PYROMETER in the last photos. Let me immediately note that on the device this is the air temperature inside the nozzle.
It’s comfortable in the cabin, +18 outside. Another positive point is that this air conditioner has a compressor switch and the comfortable temperature in the cabin can be adjusted (I didn’t turn it off, I hid it under the glove compartment, having previously set it to the middle position).
If you want to purchase air conditioning for VAZ cars, call the FROST hotline 89171204010. Details on the website FROST-LADA.COM
Answers to frequently asked questions:
— 22,000 rubles without installation and freon. — The button is in a regular place next to the heated rear window button. — No loss of engine power has yet been noticed, well, if only a little bit (E-gas automatically raises [idle speed when the load increases). — There is no interference with the engine electronic system. — On Grant, everything is provided from the factory for installing an air conditioner; nothing needs to be drilled or modified. “Any person with straight hands and knowledge of electrics can install this air conditioner in a day, but it’s better to contact certified specialists. All that remains is to vacuum, check and pump in freon. — The issue of the car warranty remains open, on the one hand, the air conditioner was installed at a certified dealership center, using technology and the direct participation of the manufacturer’s specialists, on the other hand, I quote clause 3.3 of the Car Warranty Card:
Unauthorized dismantling, disassembly and repair of parts, components, assemblies or the vehicle as a whole, including changing software, factory settings, parameters of electronic control units, as well as making unapproved changes to the design of the vehicle leads to loss of the manufacturer's warranty.
This air conditioner is at the stage of testing and approval by AvtoVAZ specialists, but the paper itself is not yet available, so everyone must decide for themselves whether to install it or wait for Grants with air conditioning to arrive from the factory. I made my choice.
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Climate control system design
Climate control consists of a large number of devices. In particular:
- Electronic control unit . This is perhaps the most important part of the system, its “brain”. It includes a controller with control programs and an information input system. These can be mechanical or electronic regulators. As a rule, information is entered into modern control units digitally, including using a remote control. Based on the incoming information, the controller program controls the executable devices - the fan rotation speed, the position of the dampers, and issues a command to increase or decrease the temperature of the blown air.
- Sensors _ They are located both inside the car and on the outside. Internal sensors monitor climate indicators in the areas where they are installed. There is also a separate temperature control sensor at the heater/cooler outlet. Interior sensors usually have forced airflow so that they provide information as quickly as possible. The more complex the system (multi-zone), the greater their number. External sensors are designed to monitor the temperature and air pollution outside the vehicle.
- Actuators . There are many devices that fall into this category. In particular, cooling and heating devices (air conditioner and stove), air dampers and their drive motors, air ducts, fans, filters, deflectors, and so on.
Components of the climate control system
It is not at all necessary for the driver to thoroughly know the internal workings of climate control. It is much more important to know the symbols on the climate control control knobs and how to configure the parameters. And also understand what preventive measures to take in order to keep the system in working order.
Installing an air conditioner on a Lada Granta
It's time to install air conditioning on the Lada Granta. It was summer, it was hot - I made an appointment with FROST specialists for installation. The work was done efficiently, I prepared a video and photos for you to install yourself.
It’s comfortable in the cabin, +18 outside. The positive thing is that this air conditioner has a compressor switch and the comfortable temperature in the cabin can be adjusted (I didn’t turn it off, I hid it under the glove compartment, having previously set it to the middle position).
— 22,000 rubles without installation and freon. — The button is in a regular place next to the heated rear window button. — No loss of engine power has yet been noticed, well, if only a little bit (E-gas automatically raises [idle speed when the load increases). — There is no interference with the engine electronic system. — On Grant, everything is provided from the factory for installing an air conditioner; nothing needs to be drilled or modified. “Any person with straight hands and knowledge of electrics can install this air conditioner in a day, but it’s better to contact certified specialists. All that remains is to vacuum, check and pump in freon. — The issue of the car warranty remains open, on the one hand, the air conditioner was installed at a certified dealership center, using technology and the direct participation of the manufacturer’s specialists, on the other hand, I quote clause 3.3 of the Car Warranty Card:
Unauthorized dismantling, disassembly and repair of parts, components, assemblies or the vehicle as a whole, including changing software, factory settings, parameters of electronic control units, as well as making unapproved changes to the design of the vehicle leads to loss of the manufacturer's warranty.
Reviews
№ | Positive |
1. | Victor, 45 years old: the car is in its second year, the shelf is not deformed, fits tightly, does not make noise, does not creak. |
2. | Konstantin, 51 years old: a few months ago there was an accident, the impact hit the rear, and the glass was damaged. I thought it moved the shelf, but it turned out to be in vain, it didn’t even deform. Good quality. |
3. | Vitaly, 37 years old: I work as a foreman in a service station, I have seen many VAZ models, but in Grant the quality of the rear shelf is good. It’s a pity that Priora cannot “boast” of such things. |
4. | Alexander, 39 years old: I’ve been working as a salesman in a store for the second year, I noticed that Granta shelves are bought extremely rarely, unlike previous models. |
5. | Maxim, 41 years old: I bought the car since it was released in 2011, during this time I changed a few things, but I didn’t touch the interior, it doesn’t creak or knock. |
6. | Valery, 44 years old: plastic inserts are of good quality, I’ve been using the car for three years now, I have no complaints about the interior or inserts. |
Negative | |
1. | Mark, 38 years old: due to the fact that the car was often parked in the sun, the rear parcel shelf was deformed, constantly knocking, and occasionally creaking. I am dissatisfied with the quality, because the plastic should be adapted to temperature changes. |
2. | Vyacheslav, 47 years old: after five years of using the car, the plastic inserts in the interior began to knock on uneven surfaces, and a creaking sound formed. In general, the manufacturer saved on quality. |
3. | Mikhail, 37 years old: I was dissatisfied with the quality of the standard shelf, I had to replace it with a Mercedes-Benz one, it fits exactly. |
Conclusion Removing the rear shelf on a Lada Granta is not at all difficult, it will take ten minutes of free time and you’re done.
How much does it cost to install air conditioning on a LADA car?
Not all LADA vehicle configurations are equipped with air conditioning. It often happens that a car without an air conditioner is operated in the south, so the owners of these regions often wonder whether it is possible to modify the design and install an air conditioner on the LADA with their own hands. We decided to find out how much such retrofitting would cost.
The cheapest way to install an air conditioner
Want to save money? Buy the necessary air conditioning components for your car model at a disassembly site, and do the installation and connection yourself. Reserve plenty of time, look for standard connection diagrams, instructions for disassembling the car and installing an air conditioner (pay attention to the Technological Instructions, which can be downloaded on our website).
1.
An example of self-installation of an air conditioner on a Lada Vesta from Denis21reg:
2.
An example of self-installation of an air conditioner on a Lada Granta from kuul:
Total: from 18,430 rubles
Popular way to install an air conditioner
Most often, car owners decide to buy an air conditioning installation kit, which includes everything necessary. Manufacturers of air conditioners for LADA are: August air conditioning plant, Frost LLC, etc.
Total: 30,000 rubles
(for self-installation) or
38,000 - 50,000 rubles
(turnkey).
Which option for installing a car air conditioner would you choose?
General questions about replacement: article number, replacement interval, choice
Filter item for searching and ordering online: 11180-8122010-03
How often to change
The plant regulates the replacement of air filters every 30,000 km. Practice shows a gap of 15,000 km from replacement to replacement. Or twice a year before winter and summer, respectively.
Which salon to choose
There are 2 types of cabin filters: carbon and regular. When choosing, consider the following points:
Table 1. Comparison of cabin filters for Lada Granta
Carbonic | Ordinary | |
How it cleanses | Detains odors | Does not allow debris and small particles to pass through, all odors pass through |
Resource | It is believed that coal quickly clogs and after that becomes meaningless | As stated - up to 30,000 km |
Where is it better to use | In dusty conditions, in a city with a lot of traffic jams | In an area with clean air, without traffic jams and heavy dust |
Cost, rub. | 250 | 170 |
The choice for Granta is a matter of your preference. The cost of the part remains meager, even if it is impregnated with carbon. If you install a regular white element but change it regularly, it won’t make things worse. If you don’t change it for a long time, anyone will turn into this photo.
Installing an air conditioner on a Lada Granta
A user of the DRIVE2.RU website under the nickname vtroshin installed a FROST air conditioner on his Lada Granta in the “Norma” configuration.
Well, this exciting moment came when I arrived at the service station of KRUMB-SERVICE LLC, where specialists from the FROST company installed an air conditioning kit for Granta on my car. The installation can be traced in detail using photographs; I will write about the results obtained after the summer heat, but for now all this can be seen on a device called PYROMETER in the last photos. Let me immediately note that on the device this is the air temperature inside the nozzle.
It’s comfortable in the cabin, +18 outside. Another positive point is that this air conditioner has a compressor switch and the comfortable temperature in the cabin can be adjusted (I didn’t turn it off, I hid it under the glove compartment, having previously set it to the middle position).
If you want to purchase air conditioning for VAZ cars, call the FROST hotline 89171204010. Details on the website FROST-LADA.COM
Answers to frequently asked questions:
— 22,000 rubles without installation and freon. — The button is in a regular place next to the heated rear window button. — No loss of engine power has yet been noticed, well, if only a little bit (E-gas automatically raises [idle speed when the load increases). — There is no interference with the engine electronic system. — On Grant, everything is provided from the factory for installing an air conditioner; nothing needs to be drilled or modified. “Any person with straight hands and knowledge of electrics can install this air conditioner in a day, but it’s better to contact certified specialists. All that remains is to vacuum, check and pump in freon. — The issue of the car warranty remains open, on the one hand, the air conditioner was installed at a certified dealership center, using technology and the direct participation of the manufacturer’s specialists, on the other hand, I quote clause 3.3 of the Car Warranty Card:
Unauthorized dismantling, disassembly and repair of parts, components, assemblies or the vehicle as a whole, including changing software, factory settings, parameters of electronic control units, as well as making unapproved changes to the design of the vehicle leads to loss of the manufacturer's warranty.
This air conditioner is at the stage of testing and approval by AvtoVAZ specialists, but the paper itself is not yet available, so everyone must decide for themselves whether to install it or wait for Grants with air conditioning to arrive from the factory. I made my choice.
Installing the Frost car air conditioner on a Lada Granta
With a hot summer ahead, many owners of a standard Lada Granta have probably repeatedly thought about installing an air conditioner on their car, especially since the manufacturer has provided for this possibility. To install the car air conditioner, the Russian company Frost has developed an installation kit specifically for basic Lada Granta models. Installing the equipment does not require special skills, so almost any car owner can install an air conditioner within the confines of his garage.
I would also like to note that by installing air conditioning, the Lada Granta will not lose its dynamics, fuel consumption will not increase and other technical characteristics of the car will not change.
The Frost car air conditioning kit for the Lada Granta includes
Video instructions for installing Frost air conditioner on a Lada Granta car
Attention! Self-installation of an air conditioner on a Lada Granta may lead to the cancellation of all warranty obligations on the part of AvtoVAZ, since under the terms of the warranty it is prohibited to carry out unauthorized installation of third-party equipment, as well as to make changes to the design of the car.
Cabin filter location
On a Lada Granta with air conditioning, the cabin filter is located in the engine compartment. It is located directly behind the power plant and is covered with a special casing. In order to see the consumable, you need to remove the frill and decorative trim.
It should be borne in mind that not all Lada Grantas have a cabin filter in their filling. Thus, an 8-valve car without air conditioning in a sedan and liftback body does not have an air purifier. There is still a place to install the filter. Therefore, the car owner has the opportunity to independently install a filter element, improving his vehicle.
How to turn on the air conditioner on the Lada Granta
Purpose of air conditioners and their design
Cars produced by AvtoVAZ are equipped with heating, ventilation and climate control systems. Like most models of this manufacturer, the Lada Granta is equipped with the same type of climate control systems, which do not have any fundamental differences between themselves. Below we will talk about all the elements of the air conditioner, providing brief descriptions of each of them. So, they include:
1 – capacitor; 2 – pipeline connecting the compressor to the evaporator; 3 – pipeline connecting the condenser to the evaporator; 4 – pipeline connecting the compressor to the evaporator; 5 – thermostatic valve; 6 – evaporator; 7 – compressor; 8 – pipeline connecting the compressor to the condenser; 9 – pressure sensor.
Remember to regularly service your car's air conditioner. Note that the owner of the Grant is able to independently determine most of the causes of failures in his work.
Removal, installation, repair and replacement of the air conditioning compressor Lada Granta VAZ 2190
Tool:
Parts and consumables:
Note:
To make it easier to remove, install, repair and replace the air conditioning compressor, place the car on a lift or inspection hole.
1. Disconnect the wire from the negative terminal of the battery.
2. Remove refrigerant from the air conditioning system as described here.
3. Remove the engine splash guard and oil pan guard (if equipped) as described here.
4. Remove the accessory drive belt.
5. Check the condition of the drive belt.
Note:
Replace the belt if, upon inspection, you find: - signs of wear on the working surface, cracks, undercuts, folds or separation of the fabric from the rubber; — cracks, folds, depressions or bulges on the outer surface of the belt; — fraying or delamination on the end surfaces of the belt; - traces of oil on the surface of the belt.
6. Disconnect the wiring harness connector from the air conditioning compressor magnetic clutch connector.
7. Remove the bolt securing the high-pressure pipeline flange to the air conditioning compressor flange, remove the washer and disconnect the pipeline.
Warning:
Immediately after disconnecting, plug the air conditioning compressor and pipe openings to prevent moisture and dirt from entering the air conditioning system.
8. Similarly, disconnect the low pressure pipe flange from the air conditioning compressor flange.
9. Remove the three bolts securing the air conditioning compressor to the engine bracket.
10. Remove the air conditioning compressor by lowering it down.
11. If you suspect problems with the air conditioning compressor pulley bearing, rotate the pulley by hand. The air conditioning compressor pulley should rotate on the bearing evenly, silently, and without jamming. There should be no axial or radial play.
If the air conditioner compressor bearing seizes and rotates tightly, then it is necessary to repair the air conditioner and replace the bearing without waiting for it to be completely destroyed.
12. Install the air conditioning compressor on the Lada Granta VAZ 2190 car in the reverse order of removal, taking into account the following: - tighten the bolts securing the air conditioning compressor to the engine bracket to a torque of 25-29 Nm; — install new sealing rings on the pipelines and lubricate them with ATMOS GU-10 compressor oil; — attach the pipelines to the compressor and tighten the bolts securing their flanges to a torque of 7-9 Nm.
Warnings:
Open the process plugs of the flanges of the new air conditioning compressor only immediately before connecting the pipelines. When installing, be sure to lubricate the new sealing rings of the pipeline flanges with oil for the air conditioning compressor.
13. When installing the drive belt, make sure that the V-belt tracks align with the pulley grooves and that the belt tension is correct.
14. Refill the air conditioner and air conditioning system with refrigerant at a specialized car air conditioning service center.
Helpful advice:
When purchasing a new air conditioning compressor, check with the seller about the amount and type of oil poured into the new compressor. This information may be useful to mechanics who will subsequently charge the system with refrigerant.
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Possible faults
When operating an air conditioner, owners may experience a number of problems, in particular: loud noise, poor cooling, or problems turning on the air conditioner. If you happen to encounter something similar, do not be upset ahead of time - you yourself can determine the cause of the breakdown. How to reliably find out whether the air conditioner is really malfunctioning?
Compare the difference in air temperature outside with the temperature reading obtained after operating the air conditioner, and if the resulting difference is 5 degrees or more, the device is faulty.
Another clear sign of a breakdown will be the absence of backlight on the air conditioner switch. There is other evidence of disruption of its functioning. For example, the clutch often breaks, making it impossible to start the equipment. In addition, the compressor installed on your car may also jam; in this case, the clutch will continue to rotate, but it will be accompanied by distinct clicks.
Another sign of a possible malfunction is the slight rotation of the compressor shaft after turning on the air conditioning system, and the simultaneous absence of cooled air. Such a violation indicates that there is no refrigerant in the system and is confirmed by diagnostics carried out at one of the service centers.
How to independently check the efficiency of the Lada Granta air conditioner?
Self-checking the effectiveness of the climate system is quite simple. All you need to do is turn on the air conditioning in your car and focus on the following aspects:
The absence of a click when the climate system is turned on may indicate several violations in its operation, namely:
The presence of any extraneous noise most often signals the beginning of destructive processes in the air conditioner clutch bearing. At the same time, it can get very hot, and then you will feel a specific smell.
If the clutch rotates freely, accompanied by extraneous noise (the engine often stalls), we are most likely talking about a jammed compressor. Its internal filling cannot be repaired, and therefore will have to be replaced.
Sometimes car enthusiasts note rotation of the compressor shaft and the simultaneous absence of even the slightest cooling of the air. In such a situation, only a specialist can determine the possible cause of the malfunction.
In addition, the cause of malfunction of the air conditioning system can be contamination of the condenser, and therefore you should not refuse its regular maintenance. But a weak air supply most often indicates problems with the cabin air filter.
Do not forget that all work on repair, maintenance and dismantling of air conditioners is recommended to be entrusted to professionals and carried out only in service centers. Car owners are advised to only clean air conditioning systems themselves. Such precautions are due to the fact that even a slight contact of freon on the skin will cause serious frostbite.
How to check the efficiency of an air conditioner using a table
To carry out such a test you will need a thermometer. The order of your actions should be as follows:
Then check the data you received with the information given in the table below:
If the temperature readings you received differ significantly from those shown in the table, start looking for the reasons for this phenomenon. Often they lie in low refrigerant content, the amount of which can decrease by 15% per year.
Capacitor check
The condenser is located in front of the radiator; during its operation, especially in summer, it becomes very dirty. The accumulation of pollution leads to disruption of heat exchange processes, and this negatively affects the operation of the entire climate system. Checking the condenser consists of a visual inspection by the car owner, which is carried out through the lower radiator grille. If there is serious contamination, it is strongly recommended to clean the radiator using compressed air or a brush.
Dependence of R134a pressure in the air conditioner on ambient temperature
In the comments to the article we resolve issues related to the incorrect operation of the air conditioner on LADA cars. We leave reviews of his work here. Have you encountered similar malfunctions? What was the cause of the problem?
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Signs of wear on the RPM
Before you start replacing the RPM, conduct your own diagnostics and evaluate the actual condition of the parts and mechanisms. Perhaps the cause of the malfunction is in another unit adjacent to the generator.
- We open the hood, the engine must cool down so as not to damage the skin of the hand and fingers.
- We put the gear in neutral and turn the alternator belt. Rotation occurs quite easily, by hand, without special equipment.
- We inspect each area one by one.
Signs of wear on the RPM
The following will indicate the need to replace the RPM:
- fraying, side abrasions;
- peeling of rubber, thread fiber;
- other mechanical damage;
- teeth tears;
- the presence of oily traces and streaks on the surface of the belt.
If there are no comments on the RPM, we proceed to inspect the tensioner roller. Often the reason for the appearance of third-party noise is precisely this, worn-out roller bearings. We loosen the structure with our hands and check that it is working properly.
Installing the Frost car air conditioner on a Lada Granta
The Frost on Lada Granta car air conditioner kit includes
How to independently check the efficiency of the Lada Granta air conditioner?
Self-checking the effectiveness of the climate system is quite simple. All you need to do is turn on the air conditioning in your car and focus on the following aspects:
The absence of a click when the climate system is turned on may indicate several violations in its operation, namely:
The presence of any extraneous noise most often signals the beginning of destructive processes in the air conditioner clutch bearing. At the same time, it can get very hot, and then you will feel a specific smell.
If the clutch rotates freely, accompanied by extraneous noise (the engine often stalls), we are most likely talking about a jammed compressor. Its internal filling cannot be repaired, and therefore will have to be replaced.
Sometimes car enthusiasts note rotation of the compressor shaft and the simultaneous absence of even the slightest cooling of the air. In such a situation, only a specialist can determine the possible cause of the malfunction.
In addition, the cause of malfunction of the air conditioning system can be contamination of the condenser, and therefore you should not refuse its regular maintenance. But a weak air supply most often indicates problems with the cabin air filter.
Do not forget that all work on repair, maintenance and dismantling of air conditioners is recommended to be entrusted to professionals and carried out only in service centers. Car owners are advised to only clean air conditioning systems themselves. Such precautions are due to the fact that even a slight contact of freon on the skin will cause serious frostbite.
Capacitor check
The condenser is located in front of the radiator; during its operation, especially in summer, it becomes very dirty. The accumulation of pollution leads to disruption of heat exchange processes, and this negatively affects the operation of the entire climate system. Checking the condenser consists of a visual inspection by the car owner, which is carried out through the lower radiator grille. If there is serious contamination, it is strongly recommended to clean the radiator using compressed air or a brush.
conclusions
The cost of installing an interior air conditioning system on a Lada Kalina is about 20,000 rubles, plus the cost of parts must be added to this. In total, it turns out that the entire system will cost the owner 35-45 thousand rubles. Of course, it’s a little expensive, but if you want to be cool on the train in the heat, then you shouldn’t skimp. It is recommended to do the installation at a car service center, but if you have the opportunity and desire, you can try it yourself.
It’s a rather complicated procedure, but if you know a mechanic, then in principle you can install it yourself. At a minimum, you will save on work compared to the service, and you can choose the parts yourself.
Changing the air conditioner in a car is not an easy task. But with careful work everything works out great. I didn’t install it the first time, but I saved 1500-2000 rubles.
Installing an air conditioner on a Lada Granta
The long-awaited hot summer is coming and the owners of brand new Lada Granta cars are slowly beginning to look with envy at the closed windows of foreign cars on sultry hot days. Everything is very simple - air conditioning on the Lada Granta will only appear in the luxury version. But don’t rush to despair - there is a way out.
The Frost company has prepared a gift for you - an air conditioner installation kit for a Lada Granta car. Now you can install an air conditioner on your car yourself by following video instructions from the same company.
The factory has already provided for the possibility of installing an air conditioner, so you do not need to interfere much with the car’s structure to install a technical device that is quite difficult to install. The body already has technological holes for wiring, for high-pressure pipes, for installing an evaporator, and an air conditioner radiator. Most of the parts are of the company's own production.
The wiring diagram for most modern air conditioners is shown below. The representative described here is fully built on the same principle.
First, a heat exchanger (or condenser) is installed in front of the car’s original radiator. It can also be optionally equipped with a fan. The refrigerant condenses in it, giving off heat. An air conditioning compressor is installed near the generator, which circulates freon throughout the system. It is driven by a belt drive (usually from a generator belt). All elements of the system are connected by pipelines filled with refrigerant (usually freon). In addition to these parts, a heat exchanger is installed in the standard ventilation system, which will cool the air, taking all the heat and releasing it in the condenser.
Below are detailed instructions for installing an air conditioner using a live example of a Lada Granta.
If you have any questions about installing or configuring your air conditioner, you can seek help in the appropriate section of our Lada Granta repair forum.
Compressor
The air conditioning compressor is mounted on the engine bracket next to the generator and is driven by the generator's serpentine belt. Its function. ensure circulation of refrigerant in the system. The torque from the pulley to the shaft is transmitted using a special electronic clutch.
If the system is working properly, a slight clicking sound is heard when the air conditioner is turned on. At this moment, the electric clutch pressing the disk engages with the pulley and transmits rotation to the compressor rotor. During operation, the coupling may wear out, which will lead to extraneous sounds, burning odors, etc. This may indicate a faulty clutch bearing.
If you don’t hear a click when you turn it on, this may indicate some kind of malfunction in the system, for example, depressurization and a refrigerant leak. In this case, the pressure sensor will detect a low level of refrigerant pressure and will not turn on the electric clutch.
If, when you turn on the air conditioner, you hear grinding and strong extraneous sounds, or the engine stalls, this may indicate that the compressor is jammed. The inside of the compressor cannot be repaired and you will have to replace it completely.
Replacement of units and components of the Lada Granta air conditioning system
We replace units and components of the air conditioning system in case of their breakdown and when dismantling components associated with the air conditioning system.
Removing and installing the capacitor
We place the car on the lift.
We unload the refrigerant from the air conditioning system.
We raise the car for convenient work.
We remove the front bumper, as stated in the article - How to remove the bumper of a Lada Granta car.
Using a 10mm socket, unscrew the four nuts 1, Figure 1, remove the washers and beam 4 of the front bumper.
We remove the sound signal 2.
Disconnect block 3 of the ignition system wires from the block of the electric fan harness 5 of the capacitor.
Using a 10 socket, unscrew two nuts 1, Figure 2, fastening the high pressure pipeline 5 and the suction compressor pipeline 4 to the condenser 3, remove the washers 2.
We disconnect the pipelines and install technological plugs on the pipelines and in the condenser holes.
Using a 10mm head, unscrew the two bolts 1, Figure 3, securing the condenser to the radiator, remove the washers 3, remove the radiator 4 from the clamps and remove the condenser 2 with the electric fan assembly.
Using a 10mm socket, unscrew the four bolts 1, Figure 4, remove the washers 2 and remove the electric fan 4 from the condenser 3.
Condenser installation
We install the electric fan 4, Figure 4, on the capacitor 3 and tighten the four bolts 1 securing the electric fan with washers 2.
We install the capacitor 2, Figure 3, with the electric fan assembly into the radiator clamps 4 and with a 10-point head we tighten the two fastening bolts 1 with washers 3.
We connect block 3 of the ignition system wiring harness to the block of the electric fan harness 5 of the capacitor.
We remove the plugs from the pipelines and the condenser. We install new o-rings. Apply compressor oil FD 46XG to the sealing rings.
We attach pipelines 4 and 5, Figure 2, to condenser 3, install washers 2 and secure with nuts 1. The tightening torque of the nuts securing the pipelines to the condenser is 3.7 - 4.6 Nm (0.37 - 0.46 kgf.m).
Install sound signal 2, Figure 1.
Install beam 4 of the front bumper, install washers and screw four nuts 1. The tightening torque of the nuts securing the front bumper beam is 5 – 7 Nm (0.5 – 0.7 kgf.m).
Evacuate the system and load the system with refrigerant, loading rate 500±25 grams.
Removing and installing the evaporator unit
We install the car on a lift or inspection ditch.
We unload the refrigerant from the air conditioning system.
Using a 10 socket, unscrew two bolts 1, Figure 5, with washers 3 and disconnect block 2 of pipelines from block 4 of the evaporator.
We install plugs in the holes of the evaporator block and the piping block.
Removing the instrument panel and heater - article How to remove the instrument panel of a Lada Granta.
Disconnect block 1, Figure 6, of the evaporator temperature sensor from the instrument panel wiring block.
Using a flat-head screwdriver and pliers, unfasten the fastening brackets and disconnect the evaporator unit housing.
By visual inspection we check the elements of the evaporator block for mechanical damage to tubes, plates and threaded connections
Evaporator Unit Installation
We perform the installation in the reverse order, in this case:
— before installation, add compressor oil to the evaporator in the amount of 25 cm 3 (compressor oil FD 46XG);
— replace the O-rings with new ones and lubricate them with compressor oil;
— the tightening torque of two bolts 1, Figure 5, attaching the pipeline block to the evaporator block is 5 – 6 Nm (0.5 – 0.6 kgf.m).
Evacuate the system and charge the system with refrigerant.
Removing and installing the air conditioning compressor
We install the car on a lift or inspection hole.
We unload the refrigerant from the air conditioning system.
For vehicles with manual transmission
Using sockets 8 and 10, unscrew eleven screws 1, Figure 7, and two mounting bolts and remove the right 5 and middle 2 engine protection splash guards.
For vehicles with automatic transmission
Using a Phillips screwdriver, unscrew eleven screws 1, Figure 8, fastenings with lock washers, remove the right 2 and left 3 engine mudguards.
For all vehicle trim levels
Use a 19mm wrench to loosen the tensioner locknut, turn the hexagon screw clockwise to loosen the tension on the auxiliary drive belt and remove the belt.
Disconnect block 1, Figure 9, of the wires from the electromagnetic clutch of compressor 2.
Using a 13 socket, unscrew the two nuts 4 securing the compressor pipelines and disconnect pipelines 3 and 5 from the compressor.
We install plugs on the pipelines and holes in the compressor.
Using a 12mm socket, unscrew bolts 1 and 2, Figure 10, securing the compressor to bracket 3 of the generator, remove the bolts and remove compressor 4.
Air conditioning compressor installation
We combine the holes in the eyes of the compressor 4, Figure 10, and in the bracket 3 of the generator, install bolts 1 and 2 of the compressor fastening into the holes. Tightening torque of compressor mounting bolts 20 – 28 Nm (2.0 – 2.8 kgf.m)
We remove the plugs from the compressor and pipelines. We install new o-rings and apply oil for the air conditioning compressor to them.
We connect the pipelines to the compressor. The tightening torque of nuts 4, Figure 8, fastening pipelines 3 and 4 to the compressor is 17 – 23 Nm (1.7 – 2.3 kgf.m).
When installing a new compressor, you need to drain the oil from it in an amount calculated by the formula:
C = A – B, where: C is the amount of oil that needs to be drained; A – the amount of oil poured into the new compressor; B is the amount of oil remaining in the dismantled compressor.
Install the accessory drive belt.
Connect the wire block.
Install and secure the engine mudguards in the reverse order of removal.
Evacuate the air conditioning system and charge the system with refrigerant.
Addresses of companies providing services for replacing RPMs
№ | Name | Address |
1. | Service | Eastern Autonomous District 1st st. Izmailovsky Menagerie, 8 st. Amurskaya, 3 building 32 (Golyanovo) st. Montazhnaya, 11 building 2 |
2. | —/— | Southern Autonomous District Kanatchikovsky proezd, 13 building 3 Kashirskoe highway, building 10, building 3 st. Dubininskaya, 76 |
3. | —/— | Western Autonomous District Kutuzovsky prospect, 36, building 15 Vernadsky Avenue, 12d Skolkovskoe highway, 31 building 9 st. Krylatskaya, 30 building 3 st. Marshala Timoshenko, 17 building 1 |
4. | Car service "Autotechnical center Garage+" | Moscow, Matrosskaya Tishina street, 1Ас8 weekdays: from 10 to 21, weekends: from 11 to 21 |
5. | Auto service "Open" | Moscow, 2nd Nagatinsky proezd, 2с1 • daily from 9 to 21 8 (495) 241-28-70 |
Installation of air conditioning in Lada Granta
Initially, the car was purchased as a relatively cheap analogue of a foreign car. The key point here is price. But time passes and I wanted to make my Granta a truly modern, comfortable car. Window closers, rain sensor, parking assistance system - everything was successfully installed.
It's the turn of the air conditioner. The task was made easier by the fact that AvtoVAZ had already carried out the necessary preparations for this system, which indicates the future serial production of this model. Installation of an air conditioner in a Lada Granta proceeds according to the following scheme:
An additional radiator-heat exchanger with a fan is installed.
What is noteworthy is that due to the fact that it is installed in front of the main radiator, when the air conditioner is turned on, the optimal engine temperature is maintained.
This happens due to the passage of air through both radiators. The main part of the system is the compressor. It was installed near the generator. It is connected via a belt drive from the motor shaft.
We must immediately make a reservation that if you value the warranty, then the installation will have to be postponed until it expires. It’s just that today the unit undergoes all the necessary checks from the engineers of the Volzhsky Auto Plant.
They have not yet given an official answer. No dealer will allow you to install it. And when installing an air conditioner at a dealer, there will be a warranty on the new device, but it will be removed from the engine.
In Russia, climate control systems from FROST are currently being installed on Granta. It is advisable to carefully check all the documentation for the device, and most importantly, entrust the installation to professionals. Due to the fact that E-gas is installed on the Grant, there is no interference with the vehicle’s control system, and the speed automatically increases as the load on the engine increases.
The installation of an air conditioner in the Lada Granta did not cause any significant loss of power. The new firmware with the climate control included in it helped. In reality, it works something like this: when the tachometer needle reaches 2500, the car simply begins to rush forward. Dynamics appear that are not present during normal driving. But all this is associated with increased fuel consumption. Although is it worth thinking about it when gaining such comfort?
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Humidity reduction function
Almost everyone knows that an air conditioner, while working to cool, dries the air. Not many people have heard how climate control in a car copes with this task in winter. To ensure this function, the installation is equipped with a special humidity meter. Data from this sensor is sent to the controller. At low negative temperatures, air dehumidification is usually not required; the stove can handle moisture vapor. The situation changes at temperatures close to zero, in conditions of wet snow, and during a thaw. The car windows begin to fog up intensely. In this situation, your climate control system will operate as follows:
- the humidity sensor will inform the controller about the need to remove excess moisture;
- the controller will give a command to turn on the air conditioner and stove simultaneously;
- moist air passing through the air conditioner evaporator will leave moisture particles in the form of condensation or frost on the heat exchanger honeycombs;
- After the evaporator, the air enters the stove radiator, where it is also further dried.
Thus, the use of climate control prevents the windows from fogging up and provides comfortable driving conditions in winter.