What brake discs are suitable for Kalina

01 October 2020 Lada.Online 23 827 0
Brake discs are replaced when their thickness becomes less than permissible (17.8 mm). Replacement is also carried out if they are damaged (cracked), unevenly worn, or when they are a source of runout. Let's figure out which brake discs are best to buy for the Lada Granta, Kalina and Priora family of cars

Lada Kalina cars of both generations have front disc brakes and rear drum brakes.
As original front brake pads for Kalina 1, the catalogs indicate 21100-3501080-00 and 21100-3501080-01, for Lada Kalina 2 the article number is 11180-3501080-00. The same catalog numbers are used for Lada Priora. Factory brake pads TIIR

Rear drum brake pads are specified as 21080-3502090-01 or 11180-3502090-10 (with ABS) for Kalina 1 and 2.

Many of these part numbers are invalid; instead, online parts stores offer other original part numbers or equivalents. This makes sense, since in the case of the Lada Kalina (and LADA in general), the original is often inferior in quality to its substitutes .

Front disc brake pads Lada Kalina
With dimensions - length: 104.4 mm; width: 62.1 mm; thickness: 17. mm.
Manufacturer	Catalog number	*Price, rub.)
Brembo	P41003	780
Ate**	13046029652	703
Ferodo (Premier)	FDB527	640
Hankook Frixa	FPE103	626
NiBK	PN0223	536
TRW	GDB469M	495
Ferodo (Target)	TAR527B	405
Lada	21083501080	380
Finwhale	V218	363
Allied Nippon	ADB0173	330

The most popular brake pad analogues are Ate, Brembo, TRW, TSN, Finwhale and Ferodo. The latter are divided into two types according to the color of the box - “red” and “green”. “Green” ones, with the prefix Target in the name, are positioned by the manufacturer as an improved replacement for factory pads , but they are not intended for heavy loads. Red, with the prefix Premier, are considered premium pads that can withstand extreme loads.

The best-selling disc brake pads for Lada Kalina are products from Ate, followed by Brembo and TRW. Drum brake pads for Kalina are most often purchased from TSN due to its favorable price. They are slightly inferior in popularity to TRW and Ate pads.

Rear drum brake pads Lada Kalina
With dimensions - diameter: 200 mm; width: 41 mm.
Manufacturer	Catalog number	Price, rub.)
Ferodo	FSB240	860
Ate	03013702312	815
Sangsin	SA183	715
TRW	GS8210	672
Finwhale	VR318	658
Bosch	0986487813	610
Profit	50010240	650
Allied Nippon	ABS1701	612
Trialli	GF231	547
TSN	232	460

The brake pads indicated here are also suitable for other VAZ cars: 2110, 2114, Lada Granta and others, with R13 and R14 brake discs.

Front brake pads are replaced approximately twice as often as rear brake pads. The exact frequency of replacement is quite difficult to establish, but the front pads are changed at intervals of 30-50 thousand km, and the rear pads at intervals of 60-90 thousand. To more accurately determine when Lada Kalina brake pads need to be replaced, it is worth checking the thickness of the friction linings every 15,000 km. A thickness of about 2 mm is considered critical.

Drivers are often motivated to change brake pads on Kalina by squeaking brake pads. Special plates installed on the disc brake pads from the outside help significantly combat this. That's what they call them - anti-squeak plates . Such plates can often be found in more expensive brake pad sets. However, you should choose brake pads not based on the presence or absence of anti-squeak plates, but on the basis of reliability and braking efficiency.

*The price of Lada Kalina brake pads is given as of April 2017 for Moscow and the region. **Bold indicates those pads that are most popular in a particular case.

Advantages and disadvantages of different types of brakes

People tend to quickly get used to the conveniences that various technical means provide them. Do you have a desire to find out what is good about the rear disc brakes installed on Kalina?

Many experienced drivers will argue that rear disc brakes are much more effective than drum brakes. And we can quite agree with them. Naturally, skeptics will find shortcomings in such a braking system.

It's no secret that rear disc brakes are much more expensive than drum brakes. Caring for a disk system is much more difficult because it really does not like dirt. Particular difficulties arise if the car is an SUV. In general, there are many opinions from both experienced and novice drivers about which brakes are best.

Kalina Sport brakes are very effective

Not long ago, a comparison was made of the performance of rear disc and drum brakes. The difference of two meters in braking distance speaks for itself. The only condition for this check was that the brake system must have a certificate of conformity, which would guarantee the car’s ability to easily pass state technical inspection.

As a result, it was proposed to test two similar configurations, but different ones were provided by the first Ford Focus model, and the AvtoSportTekhnika organization provided the Chinese Cherry. As a result of the tests, the opinions and assumptions of skeptics were successfully debunked.

Which brake discs are better to put on Kalina

Preface

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Selection of spare parts

The reason for the search was wear and tear, but since I wanted to change it, I wanted to buy something cooler so that it would brake better.

Discs

I looked at various foreign disks - Bremo, ATE and others - some too expensive, others of unknown quality.
I thought about taking the perforated ones from sports - 21120-3501070-88 - the price is normal (about 2500), 2 pieces included. But then I read the reviews: sometimes the discs crack, and most importantly, they brake no better than standard ones. Plus, some write about vibrations and hum when braking from 100 km/h. The only plus is better cooling, that is, you can brake more times from 100 km/h - I don’t need it, the standard ones suit me just fine. Therefore, I decided to take regular standard wheels - 21120-3501070-0 *
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Instead of *
there is a manufacturer's number, this changes the price (sold 1 piece): 21120-3501070-0 - 1056 rubles 21120-3501070-0
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- 1545 rubles 21120-3501070-0
2
- 860 rubles I couldn’t find information about the differences in the quality of these discs, so I bought the cheapest ones, then they cost 733 rubles apiece. The discs came from Autoreal. Moreover, one is preserved, and for some reason the second is not (

The effectiveness of a car's brakes depends on many factors. Brake discs play a certain role in this. Do you know which brake discs are best to choose for Lada Priora/Kalina/Grant?

BEHIND THE LINE INSTRUCTIONS

I admit, there were moments when I wanted to give up everything and return Kalina to regular brakes. First, when dismantling the hubs, the rear bearings, which were thoroughly stuck to the axles, fell apart, and had previously been running for 70,000 km without any unnecessary sounds. Then, already when assembling the first “foreign” kit, for some reason the length of the handbrake cable was not enough and we had to quickly come up with ways to extend it.

Not to mention such “little things” as individual adjustment of the anti-lock braking system sensors (they began to cling to the discs) or an unexpected leak in the brake hose seal. Having spent a total of ten hours installing two sets, I was convinced that it was better to entrust the work to a professional. And if the desire to twist the nuts yourself still prevails, you need to stock up on pullers, consumables and patience.

Running in and lapping is a separate issue. After installing the Darbis kit, the car suddenly stopped rolling normally. And as soon as the brakes warmed up even a little, such a hum and creaking began that experienced drivers of neighboring trucks shuddered. Gradually everything got better, but it was not possible to get rid of the extraneous sounds, clearly associated with the unimportant release of the brake pads.

Installing R14 brakes instead of R13

According to the data from the table, you can see that to switch from R13 to R14 brake discs, no modifications are required and the cost of modification is low (buy R14 brake discs and fixed caliper brackets).

Don't forget to check that the rims are at least R14 in diameter. We improve the brakes using the familiar instructions for replacing brake discs.

Most car owners, after installing R14 brake discs, feel a noticeable difference when braking and remain satisfied. However, this is not the limit, the brakes can be made even better!

Installation of brake pads and discs from a foreign car

Instead of original VAZ brake pads and brake discs, install consumables from a foreign car, for example:

Brembo brake discs (article: 09.8903.75) or ATE Power Disc 14 (article: 24.0320-0142.1);
pads from Fiat (article: 13.0460-2813.2) or BMW (article: 180281).

No modifications or design changes to the brake system are required. The maximum that may be required (for example, for pads from BMW) is to slightly file the caliper brackets.

Service

Maintenance consists of inspecting all components and replacing them in case of wear. All service looks like this:

checking the brake pedal travel;
checking and possible adjustment of the parking brake (Kalina has a handbrake from “nine”, so it must be tightened often);
inspection of all tubes and hoses;
inspection of the condition of brake discs, drums and pads;
checking the brake fluid level and replacing it approximately every 40 thousand kilometers.

Tormoza_Kalina zr9–14_1

We undertook to prepare the editorial VAZ-21927 for participation in amateur circuit racing. Let's try to find a balance and build a car that can not only show decent results in lap time trials, but also drive with pleasure every day - after all, reliable brakes, a powerful engine and good handling will not hurt on public roads.

First of all, of course, the brakes. Moreover, the front ones: during intense deceleration, a significant part of the car’s weight is distributed forward, so it is they who bear the main burden of converting kinetic energy into thermal energy. How can we evaluate how much better the mechanisms we have chosen compare to the standard ones? We decided to use a complex parameter - we will record the time of passage of the Smolensk Ring. After all, the more effective the brakes, the longer you can keep the gas open and hit the brake pedal closer to the entrance to the turn. Let's look not only at the peak deceleration values, but also at the stability of the brakes: how many laps can the tuning mechanisms withstand without stopping?

Before the start of the tests, Kalina was prepared: the engine oil was changed and Motul-RBF660 brake fluid with a boiling point of 325 °C was added - this is used in racing cars. True, for the winter it will have to be replaced with a regular one: it is too hygroscopic.

The original wheels were put aside. Firstly, there is nothing to do on standard size universal tires on the race track. Secondly, larger brakes require a different disc size. We settled on 15×6.5 ET35 wheels from Togliatti: the forging is light and durable, and the size is suitable for all AvtoVAZ models. On the attached documents there is a warning: the letter S in the model name indicates only a sporty design, the wheels are not intended for competitions. Slick actually makes custom wheels for racing. But all the fret enthusiasts whom we interviewed also drive products “from the store” - and did not notice any problems.

UNTIL FAILURE

The real truth in the characters of the brakes only appears when you force them to work hard. At first, when you accelerate the Kalina to 160 km/h, you mockingly think: “Can it?” When it's time to brake to the floor, there is no place for jokes. The antics of the drum version force you to grip the steering wheel harder in advance.

At the same time, there is no doubt that the car will still show character and will “look for the road” for the entire 130-odd meters, actively scouring from side to side. Not strong (with an amplitude of about a meter and a half), but very persistent. Discs provide not only a reduction in braking distance, but also more stable behavior. The difference is clearly visible at a lower speed of 120 km/h. Here the Kalina with disc brakes stops like a bullet, while the drums again doom it to a slight, but clearly excessive independence.

VERDICT

Sergey UDOTOV, RHHCC champion

Proma Brakes were the first to evaluate the brakes. Excellent stability in a series of combat circles, good force-deceleration feedback.

Then there was a series of laps with a set of JBT brakes. The braking points before turns on the track are almost the same as with Proma Brakes, but I liked the information content even more. The JBT withstood a series of eight combat laps with dignity, did not start to “swim”, and the brake pedal became only a little softer.

To summarize, I note: both kits are an excellent solution for tuning the standard brake system. It is difficult to say how feasible this is without increasing the power supply of the vehicle. In the championship in the “time attack” discipline, such high stability in a series of combat circles is useless; you can completely limit yourself to replacing the pads in the standard calipers with more “evil” ones.

How to do the replacement yourself

Before starting repair work, we carry out comprehensive diagnostics in order to study the general technical condition of the car, identify the breakdown, calculate time, effort, and resources. Often the cause is a faulty working cylinder, system depressurization, or pipe damage.

We carry out diagnostics by placing the car on the inspection channel, jacking up each wheel one by one, and measuring the thickness of the disk. If the actual value is less than 17.8 mm. - replace it with a new one, subsequent operation is unsafe. Otherwise, we continue the inspection and troubleshoot the brake pads and working cylinder.

VERDICT

Oleg PETRIKOV, “Behind the Wheel” test driver, Russian vice-champion

I really liked the Proma kit for its deceleration efficiency. With it, in addition, the clarity of the drive has improved - it’s easier for me to control the deceleration with pedal effort, although I admit that this will cause some difficulties for ordinary drivers. I think most motorists will like the HP Brakes kit, which is similar to “civilian” brakes in terms of pedal movement and force on it.

In each case, Kalina does not become much faster on the race track, and it was not possible to assess which set will last longer - even after fifteen laps in racing mode, the front brakes do not lose effectiveness.

In everyday use of the Lada, standard mechanisms are quite sufficient. It makes sense for residents of regions who operate their cars on mountain roads to install more efficient ones.

MISSED?

Alas, the Proma Brakes set I liked so much after dismantling made me whistle. It seems that in extreme modes the rotor begins to warp: it literally removes chips from the caliper. The topic remains open, the manufacturer promised to look into the problem, but for now director Andrei Sisyukin said the following:

— The rotor touching the upper part of the outer half of the brake caliper occurs as a result of the selection of gaps in the dimensional chain and the wheel bearing due to the increased dynamic load on the outer wheel when cornering. This did not happen on other brakes tested due to the inherently larger gap between the brake disc and caliper.

We produce two types of brake calipers: road ones, which ZR tested, and racing ones. One of the differences between them is that in the racing version the gap between the rotor and the caliper is increased. In the road version, we do not increase it, guided by safety considerations: if there is a lot of wear, the pad plate gets into the gap between the brake disc and the caliper, and then either the rotor jams, or the plate is thrown inside the wheel and the car is left without front brakes.

We have been producing brake kits for front-wheel drive VAZ models with these parameters for more than eight years, and we have not received any complaints about the rotor touching the caliper. These elements have certificates of conformity and vehicle type approval.

To find out the reasons for the contact, we will test our brake mechanisms on Kalina.