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Hi all! A couple of months ago, with about 120k miles. replaced the brake discs because... When braking, a beating appeared and there was a decent amount of output. I decided to install R 14 wheels. To switch from 13th to 14th wheels there are no particular difficulties; you need the disk itself and a pad guide (R 14 caliper bracket from a VAZ 2112). I didn’t bother with the choice of disks, I took the usual “Ladovskie” ones for 945 rubles. per piece, “guides” for 635, caliper guides along with anthers for 40 rubles apiece, lubricant for the guides for 260 and pads (green Ferodo) for 900.

And then to the garage for installation. There were no particular difficulties during the replacement, the old discs came off almost without effort, one had to be hit a little with a hammer. I would like to say hello to AvtoVAZ and their ingenious decision to install bolts not with the usual “17” head, but with a “torx” head, onto which the “block guide” is screwed.

I didn’t have a key or such a head, so I didn’t invent anything so as not to drill out the bolt later. I had to go to the store (fortunately not far from the garage) and buy an “E 12” head

What front brake discs should be installed on the Lada Granta

The front wheels of the Lada Granta are equipped with disc shoe brakes. What makes the pedal informative is that it makes it easy to calculate where to stop.

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The power reserve with original parts can range from 50 to 120 thousand km. But sooner or later the need for replacement arises.

You can divide all supplied spare parts into two main categories: original and analogues. The former are more expensive. But at the same time, their maximum mileage is usually an order of magnitude greater than their analogues. There is multi-stage quality control in production. The downside is the high cost. Sometimes it is 2-3 times more than analogues.

The latter are distinguished by their availability. But not all parts are reliable. It is best to give preference to well-known brands that have proven themselves on the positive side.

You asked: What kind of brake discs are on the Kalina Cross?

Issue price: Front brake discs 2112 ventilated R14 (Euro-sport) (Almetyevsk) - 1900 rubles Front brake pads TRW GDB1446 - 680 rubles. Caliper brackets 2112 - 1200 rub. Total: 3780 rub.

Depending on the configuration, the manufacturer equips Lada cars with different front brakes. We determine which brake discs AvtoVAZ installs on Priora, Granta and Kalina, what is the difference between the front brake mechanisms, and how to very easily improve the brakes without modifications.

Aluminum brake drums

Now they are the most advanced. Why? Yes, they simply weigh little, and manufacturers are trying their best to lighten the weight of the car and, in particular, reduce the load on the axle.

Therefore, this material is now being used more and more often, what other advantages are there:

As I already wrote, this is weight. Aluminum can weigh up to 50% less than the same cast iron version.
Price. Not to say that they were cheaper just like that, after all, they are non-ferrous metal. But due to the mass, the difference in price is quite significant. About 30% cheaper.
Cooling. This is really a big plus, we all know that during prolonged braking, say in the city, the discs and drums literally get hot. Aluminum conducts heat well, meaning it heats up quickly and cools down quickly. Therefore, drums made from it perfectly remove heat and cool quickly enough. Also, you can often see ribs on them, for even greater heat dissipation. It is worth noting that the more the drum heats up, the more effective the brakes decrease, and the pads simply begin to “float”. Cooling saves the situation and efficiency is maintained.
Corrosion and aesthetic appearance. Yes, it should be noted that aluminum practically does not show any signs of rust or other decay. Thus, the outer and inner surfaces always remain clean. It is practical, and also aesthetically pleasing; there is no need to tint or maintain it. This is definitely a plus.

But this system also has disadvantages and they are also significant, let’s take it in order.

The very first disadvantage is greater wear on the disc. Aluminum is a soft metal and therefore wears out quickly. You will change much more often than your opponent.
They get very attached. This material sticks very strongly to the place of attachment, and it is not at all easy to remove them.
Fragility. If you plan to remove them, then you must have special pullers, otherwise there is a high probability of breaking the drum, it is very fragile.
With strong heating, after falling into a puddle, the geometry can change. What will affect the quality of braking?

To be honest, aluminum drums are not as durable a product as, say, cast iron. They really break very easily. Let’s say your rear wheel is stuck, the brake lining is torn off due to high wear, you won’t be able to just remove it and look inside, and if you hit it with a hammer, you’ll simply break the drum. In this regard, the opponent looks much more profitable.

So which is better?

What to choose in the end so as not to make a mistake? Guys, I’ll say that very few people now change aluminum to cast iron in drums or vice versa, most likely the replacement will be with disc brakes (they are really better), and ventilated or even perforated , it has been proven that with these the car brakes 15 - 20% more efficiently.

And the choice between these two, I personally would fall on cast iron, but it needs to be tinted, and it’s heavier, a pair is about 8-10 kilograms, but it’s more reliable and easier to remove. This is my personal opinion.

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Cast iron brake drums

Needless to say, this metal is much stronger, but also many times heavier than its opponent. Some manufacturers sacrifice suspension lightweighting and still install cast iron on their cars.

Original

The advantage is exact compliance with the specified dimensions. After purchasing the part, there is no need to adjust it to size or grind it down:

Name	vendor code	Cost per 1 piece, rubles
AvtoVAZ	11180-3501012-10	From 2 thousand rubles

Various manufacturers can be the manufacturer of original parts of this type for cars. But the products are labeled as AvtoVAZ. The quality is up to the mark. A special alloy of cast iron is used. It is allowed to use pads whose friction linings include ceramics.

Analogs

The selection of replacements for original parts includes several dozen items. The highest quality and relatively inexpensive are the following:

Name	vendor code	Cost, per 1 piece, rubles
Alnas Sport, ventilated perforated	2112-3501070-03	From 1 thousand rubles
Notched, “PowerDisc”ATE	24.0320-0142.1	From 1.5 thousand rubles
BREMBO MAX	09.8903.75	From 1.2 thousand rubles

What rear brake discs can be installed on the Lada Granta

Despite the fact that this car belongs to the budget class and is one of the cheapest among those sold in the Russian Federation, it is equipped with rear disc brakes. Which implies the need to replace individual components. The price of parts depends on their type, as well as other factors.

It is important to remember: the front and rear discs differ in the diameter of the mounting holes and other parameters. Installation can be done by yourself. The process itself is simple. But it requires some preparation. It is important to decide on a budget for parts in advance. All of them are divided into two main categories - analogues and originals. They differ in price and quality.

There are many types of discs. These are ventilated, with notches and various others. If the driver practices an aggressive driving style, then you should opt for ventilated models. They cool faster. They have more resources. The replacement process is no different from the others.

Installing R14 brakes instead of R13

According to the data from the table, you can see that to switch from R13 to R14 brake discs, no modifications are required and the cost of modification is low (buy R14 brake discs and fixed caliper brackets).

Don't forget to check that the rims are at least R14 in diameter. We improve the brakes using the familiar instructions for replacing brake discs.

Most car owners, after installing R14 brake discs, feel a noticeable difference when braking and remain satisfied. However, this is not the limit, the brakes can be made even better!

Analogs

The cost of original components is an order of magnitude higher than analogues. Therefore, the choice of many vehicle owners falls on substitutes. The most advantageous offers:

Name	vendor code	Cost, rubles
A.S.P.	2702220	2 thousand rubles. for 1 piece
B.M.	BDV 885	1 thousand rubles for 1 piece.
Hella	8DD355109331	1.6 thousand rubles for 1 piece.

Reasons for replacing spare parts

One of the main reasons for replacing brake discs is natural wear and tear. In addition, it is recommended to install new parts instead of old elements in the following cases:

premature failure of discs, which can be determined by deterioration in the quality of braking of the car;
damage to product surfaces;
deformation of spare parts.

Attention! In any of these cases, it is recommended to replace the brake discs to avoid a dangerous situation while the vehicle is moving.

Replacing front brake discs

The replacement algorithm includes the main steps:

it is necessary to remove the wheel and jack up the car;
the old brake pads are removed - to do this, the guide bolts are unscrewed and the caliper is folded back;
The bracket is carefully hung on the suspension, after which you can begin to remove the disk - two nuts are unscrewed;

if for some reason the disk cannot be removed from the bolts, you need to lightly hit it with a hammer from the reverse side;
The new disk is carefully installed.

The nuts are screwed into place. It is advisable to pre-lubricate the threads with graphite lubricant. This will prevent souring. It is advisable to change the pads along with the discs.

What brake pads are best for the grant?

10 best brake pads for Lada Granta

1	ATE	The best protection against counterfeiting. Effective braking
2	BREMBO	Highest coefficient of friction
3	LADA	Manufacturer's best choice
4	FINWHALE	Long service life. Does not contain asbestos
5	BOSCH	The optimum ratio of price and quality

Replacing rear brake discs

The algorithm for replacing rear brake discs is as simple as the front ones. The process is similar. Its main stages:

it is necessary to remove the wheel to gain access directly to the part - the car is raised on a jack or lift;

the caliper is removed along with the pads - you can place it side by side or hang it on a spring;
use an open-end wrench to unscrew two nuts;
a new disk is installed.

Assembling the caliper, installing the pads - everything is done in the reverse order. It is necessary to ensure that the thickness of the brake disc corresponds to that specified by the manufacturer. If you have difficulty removing the pads, you need to press in the cylinder with a screwdriver. If difficulties arise with unscrewing threaded connections, you need to use WD-40.

Serviceable brake discs affect the driving comfort, vehicle speed and safety. It is necessary to carry out timely inspection and repair of the main components of the brake system.

I’m thinking of changing to 14th ALNAS (with perforations) do I need to change the calipers?

Change the gasket between the steering wheel and the seat

what's wrong?

Uncle is being insolent...listen, it looks like thirteenth ones. I’ll find out from the mechanic the other day exactly which ones. I want to install 14 discs for myself. But maybe I’ll install Volgov calipers, I don’t know yet.

What does this have to do with brake discs? There are rims and tires of different sizes and the manufacturer usually recommends several sizes, but no one changes the brake discs (wheel hubs)

Actually, I’m asking because the 13th and 14th were installed on the two-wheeler at the same time. But on the grant, I don’t know, there’s nothing in the book about this... I don’t really want to take off the wheel to look at it So Why don’t you be smart since you don’t know anything!

Tires Standard sizes 175/70 R13 175/65 R14 Non-standard sizes 186/60 R14 195/50 R15 185/60 R14

Disks PCD 4×98 DIA 58.6 Standard sizes 5.5 x 14 ET35 Non-standard sizes 5.5 x 14 ET38 6 x 15 ET35 6 x 15 ET38

What does this have to do with it? Don't confuse wheels with brakes!

Good luck learning the materiel

But what’s wrong? If the brake discs are 14th then the 13th calipers need to be changed as I was told. Or is this not so?

but don’t worry, some inadequate felt boots are talking nonsense)) I’m also interested in the standard with automatic transmission, what kind of brake discs they cost, I used to think that from 12, but now I doubt something

But what’s wrong? If the brake discs are 14th then the 13th calipers need to be changed as I was told. Or is this not so?

THEY SAID CORRECTLY TO ME IT SEEMES TO BE 13 I LOOKED AT THE PRIOR THE DISTANCE BETWEEN THE CALIPER AND THE DISC IS MUCH SMALLER AND THE WHEELS ARE THE SAME 14

But what’s wrong? If the brake discs are 14th then the 13th calipers need to be changed as I was told. Or is this not so?

along the way, you still didn’t understand what they told you, maybe you’re a noob, you can install any wheels, at least 13, at least 14, at least 15, and with the tires you can customize yourself

How does the Lada Granta brake system work?

The working brake system is dual-circuit. This was done to ensure fault tolerance. If one of the circuits malfunctions, the second will perform braking, albeit with less efficiency. The first circuit is located on the front right and left rear wheels, and the second circuit is on the front left and right rear wheels.

The front brake discs on the Lada Granta are ventilated discs. When you press the brake pedal, the pressure in the system increases, the piston moves, pressing the pad against the disc.

To reduce cost, the rear brakes are drum brakes. They have a mechanism for automatically adjusting the gap between the drum and the pads. The disadvantage of this design is instability to moisture and souring of the brake cylinder. Only replacement helps. The Lada Granta Sport uses rear brake discs, but they are not ventilated.

The engineers took the handbrake from the VAZ-2109 car and did not modify it in any way. It also doesn't hold well and needs to be tightened frequently. To do this, there is an adjusting nut on the handbrake lever. The design is very primitive - a cable runs from the lever to the rear drum brakes.