Hi all! The topic of our conversation will be installing the Start Stop button. Lately they have been talking about this more and more often, so I decided to provide some clarity regarding the possibility and feasibility of such a step.
In reality, everyone strives to improve their own comfort and make life easier. There are many examples. Cars are equipped with cruise control so as not to constantly hold the gas pedal. We also connect rear view cameras so that you don’t have to lean over the seat and twist your neck back and forth. And navigators have completely replaced old paper maps.
As for installing a simple button instead of the ignition switch, it is quite convenient, and even fashionable. Similar autostart is provided for many modern cars. But owners of old cars can only install the button with their own hands.
The circuit is not the most complicated, which has caused a real wave of popularity for altering the ignition system. Whether to do this or not, everyone decides for themselves.
Advantages and disadvantages
Initially, it seems that the button has a number of advantages. After all, the driver just needs to press it and the car will start. There is no need to turn the key.
But don't rush to conclusions. Also, don’t rush to Aliexpress for a new button. Even though the price of such devices is insignificant, I first advise you to study the strengths and weaknesses of such a step. Let's start with the advantages, which include the following:
- There is no need to use a key every time you want to start a car engine;
- The button launch scheme is extremely simple;
- Installation is possible on many cars;
- The level of comfort increases;
- Start-Stop can be linked quite effectively to the alarm and immobilizer;
- The price of the button is low;
- Many drivers can install the system themselves, relying on instructions and video lessons;
- The work takes no more than a few hours.
Everything looks very rosy and promising. But take your time. There are pitfalls here.
The driver will have to press the brake to start. Not the most familiar scheme, which will take some getting used to. There are also difficulties in installing an alarm system with an autostart system, where the engine start button is located.
It’s better to think about installing Start-Stop in advance. If this is done before installing the alarm system, then installing a security system will be quite expensive.
Installation recommendations
Before starting work, you should take preparatory measures. A lot depends on what kind of machine you are dealing with. Some people remove the car ignition switch itself by installing a simple key in its place. In other situations, a hole is made to size, allowing access to the wiring and allowing connection to the electrical circuit.
To work you will need a set of tools and some materials, consisting of:
- screwdriver;
- wire cutter;
- electrical tape;
- ready button;
- three four-pin relays;
- one five-pin relay;
- one relay from PTF;
- a set of insulated wiring with terminals;
- free time;
- installation instructions.
If you buy a ready-made kit, then you are doing absolutely right. The package includes everything you need, plus a detailed installation manual and the installation diagram itself. It is from this instruction that you need to build on, and not look for some universal guides.
For those who understand the electrical equipment of cars, the diagram below will be a clear example. This is the simplest algorithm that allows you to set keys to start the power plant by simply pressing a button.
If this picture doesn’t tell you anything at all, then taking on such a task is strictly prohibited.
The bottom line is to make three connection points in your car. The first will be located on the ignition block of your car, the second will be placed on the brake pedal limit switch, and the third will be placed on the control wire.
Whether to install such a solution or not, everyone decides for himself. Carefully consider the advisability of changing the engine switching principle on your car. Experience shows that the button is not suitable for everyone. That’s why many people change back Start-Stop to the usual key turned in the ignition switch.
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Installation methods
Nobody significantly limits car owners from installing a button on their car to start the engine with a simple press.
Therefore, more and more often you can meet those who want to install a solution:
- for 140 Mercedes;
- Niva;
- Lada Granta;
- Hyundai Solaris;
- to Priora;
- Honda cars;
- Mitsubishi ACX;
- Mitsubishi Lancer;
- Audi 100 C4;
- Toyota Yaris;
- Kia Rio;
- and even VAZ 2114.
The main thing here is to decide whether you really need this button. If yes, then move on to choosing the system itself.
Modern manufacturers of universal buttons allow you to select a mechanism for any machine. Please note that there are various connection schemes. Each of them has its own characteristics.
But a few of the most popular solutions dominate. These are the options that car owners prefer. Let me introduce you to them:
- Button with ignition key. This system will not allow you to start the car without using the ignition key. Therefore, you need to turn the key itself in the lock, and then press the button;
- Keyless. To start the motor, you just need to press the button. An extremely convenient scheme. But here it is important to install it correctly, otherwise the car will be extremely easy to steal;
- Short press. To start, hold the button for up to 2 seconds. The starter rotates and turns off when the engine is running;
- Long press. Allows you to hold a key as long as required. The starter will not stop rotating until the engine starts;
- A circuit where the ignition is activated after a key has been pressed;
- A scheme in which the ignition is activated 1 second earlier than the car starter.
Also, some combine different schemes to achieve the desired result.
If you do not have experience in such work, and also have poor understanding of automotive electrical equipment, you should not take on such work with your own hands.
Contact good workshops. Moscow alone is ready to offer dozens of addresses of car services that offer similar services. The price will be higher, but the result is guaranteed.
BMW i3
The BMW i3 has a lot of features that make this car simply remarkable and distinguishes it from the entire lineup of the Bavarian automaker, and the engine start button contributed to this. It is located on the steering column joystick. Such a solution is probably the only one in the world.
Will installing a “Start Stop” button instead of the ignition switch protect your car from theft?
Some drivers believe that installing a Start/Stop button makes the car vulnerable to car theft. This is not true: you can install it, and it is safe. Almost all modern cars have contactless key fobs. If we assume that the attacker somehow opened the car door, but he did not use the “original” key, the button will not allow the engine to start. This most likely will not help protect your car from professional car thieves, because they use repeaters to intercept the radio signal from the car's control panel. One of these devices is called “Volna”, it can be bought on the Internet.
But you can protect yourself from theft. You should not store the key fob near windows and entrance doors so that criminals do not have the opportunity to intercept the outgoing signal. Try to keep it in a thick-walled box or Faraday bag. Can be wrapped in foil.
The presence of a Start / Stop key is, first of all, comfort and reduces the time spent on starting the engine. This is very important, because we are constantly in a hurry. To install a button using a simple diagram, you do not need deep knowledge of electrical engineering. The most important thing here is not to mix up the wires. If there is a button, the process of starting the engine becomes comfortable. There is no need to insert the key into the lock (which is very inconvenient to do in the dark). Also, the lock itself sometimes jams.
The button is especially convenient to start the engine when in a hurry. Beginners who have not yet developed the skills of “blind” control begin to get nervous and perform unnecessary actions. This can lead to the car not moving when the traffic light turns green.
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Comments 9
This is the problem: when you autostart, you get into the car and the immobilizer is triggered every other time, and in order for the chip to work, you need to put it directly into the ring. Is it possible to remove it from the system altogether?
Please tell me how the standard immobilizer and engine autostart behave after installing this system?
There are no changes in the operation of the immobilizer, since this button is connected to the standard connector of a conventional ignition switch and only performs its function. As for autostart, you need to look at the connection diagram. But since most alarms are connected to the key, the auto start will not see this button. The button simply emits the operation of the key in the ignition switch. But there are a number of disadvantages: the car cannot start from the pusher)) and when the battery is very discharged, the button block takes on a charge and the car does not envy without lighting it.
Immo, he most likely behaves the same way as he always did. Another question is how convenient it is to use, so that there is both rfid and immo. If the RFID has a timeout of 15 seconds to start the car, then the immo transponder should be at the antenna at the time of starting? Then somehow it’s no longer sporty, with elements of a collective farm)) Like holding the remote control at the antenna while starting the internal combustion engine.
Hello, after installation my BSK stopped working, is it somehow related to the lock?
Of course, the bsk is connected to the lock =) it receives power after turning the key =) Orange wire.
Hello, after installation my BSK stopped working, is it somehow related to the lock?
In many recent car models, a button is used to start the engine instead of the usual key. How much better and more convenient it is - everyone determines in accordance with their preferences. The appearance of such a new product has caused many drivers to want to install a push-button engine start on their old cars. Therefore, it would be quite appropriate to consider how the ignition and engine starting system can be redesigned in accordance with new trends.
What do you need for installation?
The connection diagram for the Start Stop button may involve the use of an ignition key. In this case, it will be possible to start the Engine only after turning it. There are modifications that do not require a key - the engine starts after pressing a key. This option is less secure - the car becomes easier prey for attackers.
There are schemes in which the keys respond to short and long presses. A short press (a couple of seconds) and the starter will turn off after making a few revolutions. When pressed long, the starter will rotate until the engine starts completely.
In some circuits, the ignition is activated after pressing the key, but slightly before the starter. There are also combinations of the described methods.
Tools and Supplies
When connecting the Start Stop button, you will need the following tools:
- start-brake unit;
- special relays (3 pieces), each with 4 contacts;
- relay (1 piece), with 5 contacts;
- fog lamp relay;
- wiring kit;
- terminal set;
- pliers or pliers (crimping is worse when using pliers).
Connection diagram
Here we are talking about the simplest version of the circuit, which can be installed in half an hour. We connect the relay with a brown wire to a 12-volt battery (positive terminal). We also supply the enabling signal + there. The general negative signal is output to ground. Make sure the contact is secure. We connect the working contacts of the load relay to 12V (blue wire). We connect the negative control signal to the Start & Stop key. We leave the enabling signal + unused.
Volvo XC90
The updated Volvo makes you take yourself seriously and becomes a real competitive threat in the luxury car class. In the new generation, the designers carefully worked out all the small details of the car’s interior. The owner can be proud of the faceted engine start joystick, the chic wheel for switching driving modes, and the crystal automatic transmission selector.
How to connect the “Start Stop” button: step-by-step instructions
The “principle of different colors” of wires remains the same for any system connection scheme.
Pay attention to the yellow wires. Many kits have 3 yellow wires. You will not confuse anything if you remember the following: the thin yellow cable, which is located on the harness, controls the brake system. The remaining cables are connected to the ignition system. The system may contain a purple wire - these are directly related to starting the engine.
It is no coincidence that the conversation turned to the color scheme of the wires. To avoid hassle, car enthusiasts purchase ready-made systems that come with detailed connection diagrams with detailed explanations of where each wire should go. Manufacturers produce kits with wires of the same color.
The Start Stop button instead of the ignition switch is mounted as follows:
- Dismantle the ignition switch, having first removed the cylinder.
- Each electrical wire emanating from the lock is carefully cut off.
- Using electrical tape, we connect the wires going to the ignition box into one bundle, then we bring them to the button (see the connection diagram).
The stop-start key is now connected. It can be mounted on the control panel or in another place convenient for the driver in the cabin.
If you think you can install the system yourself, it’s worth a try. But it’s still better if this work is done by professionals, since an incorrectly installed key will have to be changed.
Many modern cars are equipped with a system called Start-Stop. It allows you to start the engine using a button rather than the ignition key. In addition to standard devices, there are universal solutions on sale that allow you to install such a mechanism on almost any car. Today we will tell you about how the keyless engine start button works, what advantages and disadvantages it has, as well as how to properly connect and install it on the car with your own hands.
Cars
Instructions for installing the Start-Stop button (Start engine) on a BMW E36.
After the ignition switch started sticking on the E36, the idea of installing a Start engine button came up. The button was ordered here, at that time for 1378 rubles, the parcel arrived on the eighth day.
Inside the box there was everything necessary for connection and installation: a button with wires, a control unit, wiring, two immobilizer key fobs, an RFID ring-reader, a connection diagram.
First I put everything in its place. I placed the ring under the center console near the ashtray.
So that you can simply put your keys with the key fob in this pocket.
The control unit was attached with plastic clamps to a pipe under the dashboard on the driver's side.
At first I wanted to install the button instead of the cigarette lighter, but it turned out to be larger than I thought. The only suitable place for her is here.
To install the button you need to bend the metal ears
and insert the button into the drilled hole, press it firmly and then bend the tabs on the back of the panel.
Advantages and disadvantages of the Start-Stop system
Start-Stop Engine is far from a new development by specialists. Although the system is constantly being improved, experts have not yet been able to resolve the nuances associated with certain “cons” of this function. Of course, each driver must weigh everything himself and analyze whether he needs an engine start button.
Advantages:
- the engine starts with a light click;
- installing a “Start-Stop” button instead of the ignition switch is possible in any suitable place;
- no need to carry the ignition key;
- additional protection from intruders (analogue of an immobilizer).
Flaws:
- to start the engine you need to press the brake pedal, you need to get used to this, novice drivers may have certain difficulties;
- the need for improvement when using an alarm system with auto start;
- the need to dismantle the standard steering wheel lock or keep the key in the ignition switch;
- Installing a security alarm on a car with an engine start button requires additional manipulations and is more expensive.
How to install a mechanism in a car
Before you begin installing the start/stop button, it is necessary to carry out certain preparatory work, which will depend on the car model. The ignition switch is removed from the car. And if the design of the car does not allow this, then a small hole is made on the dashboard, next to the lock. To cut through it, any available tool will do: a knife or an ordinary household soldering iron. This hole will give access to the wiring (you can make a plug for it later).
Next, we consider the simplest and most accessible option for installing a button, which will work like this: the first press of the key in combination with the pressed brake pedal will start the engine, the second press will turn it off.
Button installation and connection methods
The following connection diagrams for the Start-Stop button are usually used:
- With or without ignition key. When this option is selected, the key is used to turn on the ignition. But the engine is started using a button. The second method involves completely dismantling the ignition switch. The ignition is turned on and the power unit is started without using a key.
- Turn on the ignition. There is an option in which pressing the button turns on the ignition, or an option in which the ignition is turned on simultaneously with the starter being activated.
- Single or long press. When using the first method, pressing once will cause the starter to rotate until the engine starts. And the second method involves rotating the starter until you release the button.
It is noteworthy that all these options can be combined with each other, since everyone has their own preferences. In most cases, installing the device does not require any special skills. Everything is intuitive; you just need to understand the connection diagram provided by the manufacturer and follow the instructions.
Aston Martin
Aston Martin loves to work its models down to the smallest detail, and its ignition button is the most luxurious ever. They turned a simple interior element into a work of art. In some of its models, the button is supplemented with a small crystal key.
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Assembly and installation of an engine starting system with a button
The first stage is preparing the place for mounting the Start-Stop Engine button. Some car enthusiasts prefer installing a mechanism instead of a standard ignition switch, others mount the part on the front panel or on the other side of the steering column. If you intend to leave the ignition switch in its original place, we recommend that you disguise it with a suitable cap. Do not forget that the button usually has LED backlighting, so it is better to mount it so that it does not blind you in the dark.
Installing the “Start-Stop” button from Aliexpress
In most cases, it will be most advisable to purchase a ready-made installation kit. Typically it consists of the button itself, a control unit, a reader, key fobs and a set of wires. The cost of this set in the popular Chinese online store Aliexpress is about $25. This is where you usually buy an installation kit for starting the engine with a button.
Button connection diagrams (in Russian and English)
The published schemes have minimal differences, but the principle is the same.
We will consider the procedure for installing the device on a VAZ car (Lada Kalina) while maintaining the possibility of using the standard ignition switch. In this case, only the steering wheel lock is missing. If the push-button mechanism fails, you can turn it off, connect the standard ignition switch connector and start the engine using the key. To maintain this possibility, it is recommended to purchase a block with wires for the ignition switch contact group.
Installation and connection sequence:
- Remove the ignition switch by removing the four screws using a screwdriver.
- Disassemble and remove the steering lock mechanism.
- Disconnect connectors.
- Disassemble the contact group housing and remove the immobilizer antenna.
- Install the engine start button in the selected location.
- Solder the wires according to the diagram, insulating them with heat shrink. Remove unnecessary wires from the block.
- Install everything in reverse order.
- Connect the green wire to the brake block (contact No. 4, in our situation - red). A “+” should appear on this contact when you press the brake pedal.
Checking the system operation:
- Initially the button is inactive;
- To unlock, you need to bring the key fob from the kit to the reader (a double signal should sound);
- If there is no button press within 15 seconds, automatic blocking will occur (a single signal will sound);
- after unlocking, the first press turns on ACC (in our situation it is not used), the second press turns on the ignition, the third turns off the system (if you do not first press the brake pedal);
- With the brake pedal pressed, pressing the button a third time will start the engine;
- quick start of the engine is possible - you need to press the brake pedal and simply hold the button for 1-3 seconds until the power unit starts;
- To stop the engine, press the brake pedal and press the button.
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Comments 19
That’s interesting, look, when you start, the doors are supposed to close (if you connect the wire), the question is different, if you start remotely from the signaling, will the doors close when you start?
I have a question about the reader. I register a new chip through the button on this black box, everything blinks as in the description, but there is no sound that it is unlocked and therefore I cannot start the engine and the button does not react at all, it just blinks. I connected everything correctly, in my opinion, since I checked all the wires plus, and the ac and ignition are working, what’s the problem?