Is it worth installing gas (LPG) on the Lada Granta VAZ 11182 1.6 8v 90 hp and VAZ 21126 1.6 16v 98 hp?

A car is an ideal form of transport for moving around the city and across different countries. But over time, gasoline does not become cheaper, and if you often go somewhere by car, trips will cost a lot of money. In order to save money, drivers are increasingly switching to gas. And although the Lada Granta is considered a fairly economical car, LPG, even with the cost of installing it, will save much more money in your wallet.

Generation choice

The first thing you should decide on before buying an LPG is which generation is suitable for this car? HBO for a second-generation Granta with a firecracker, which will also require additional heating of the gearbox - not serious for a modern car. And it is no longer economical, its technological characteristics are outdated.

The most advanced is the fifth. There are a lot of advantages: the power of a vehicle on gas is higher than on gasoline, gas consumption in quantitative terms is equal to gasoline. Huge savings, considering that gas is almost half the price. However, the cost of the fifth generation is still prohibitive for most car owners. You cannot yet find service stations with qualified and certified technicians for the installation and maintenance of this high-tech equipment even in big cities.

The optimal option for gas equipment for the Lada Granta is the 4th generation. This generation does not have the disadvantages of previous developments. The “pops” have disappeared, the drop in power is small, and when installing an ignition timing variator, this probability is reduced to zero. Economical gas consumption in comparison with previous generations due to the rational organization of injection of a propane-butane mixture into the nozzles.

Features of the transition of the 8-valve Lada Granta to LPG

Before switching from gasoline to gas, you need to know the main features of gas equipment. The quality of installation of the cylinder is very important, on which the service life of the gas equipment on the Lada Granta depends. Also, before making the transition, you need to decide on the equipment manufacturer.

There are equipment from different brands on the market, which differ in price and characteristics. Another stage is the choice of generation. The LPG must be suitable not only for the car itself, but also for the climatic conditions in which the car will be operated.

Many car owners, before installing gas equipment on Granta, wonder how safe it is. If the cylinder is installed correctly, the risk of gas leakage is completely eliminated. After all, modern equipment is equipped with both electronic and mechanical safety features.

As for the effect on the engine life, HBO even makes the engine work 1.5 times easier and the engine starts to run quieter and softer.

When switching to LPG, it is worth considering one more feature: during installation, questions arise about the fuel pump and injectors. However, experts give a clear answer: you need to turn off the injectors. There are two scenarios here:

1. Use the program. Thanks to the necessary firmware, the system will have two modes - gasoline and gas. If the car is running on gas, the injectors will not turn on automatically.
2. Organize correct fuel supply. This method is suitable for a transitional mode if, for example, the car did not initially have a gas system.

With high-quality installation and proper timely maintenance, the gas equipment will last a long time, and the car will cover more than 200,000 km.

Selecting the type of gas engine fuel

Methane fuel is cheaper than propane-butane mixture. In terms of price it wins significantly. Highly environmentally friendly fuel of natural origin. But there are as many pluses as there are minuses. The equipment itself and its installation are almost twice as expensive as CIS countries. This is justified because methane is not in a liquefied state like propane, but in a gaseous state.

Accordingly, the equipment must withstand this condition. This leads to the next disadvantage - the cylinders are heavy and bulky even for the spacious trunk of the Granta liftback. But they hold much more fuel.

Due to the technological difficulties of connecting equipment and high safety requirements, there are very few methane gas stations. There are also an order of magnitude fewer craftsmen who service such gas equipment.

Propane-butane equipment is cheaper, the equipment is much lighter, there are compact series cylinders. There are no problems with refills and maintenance. The last word belongs to the car owner. If the disadvantages of LNG fuel do not bother you, you can save a lot of money by using Grant's methane gas equipment.

Selecting a HBO manufacturer

There are many manufacturers of gas equipment; choosing high-quality equipment is not difficult. Each brand has its own advantages.

Installing and configuring Digitronic gas equipment is not difficult; there are service centers for the brand in almost every city.

The original rack made of metal-ceramic HBO BRC has a resource of up to 250 thousand km (most brands have no more than 100 thousand).

A universal set of cables and a plastic case for inexpensive SEC ECO equipment. This LPG is equipped with the ATS function and is suitable for any injectors available on the domestic market.

The kit from Lovato fits perfectly even on the 127th engine.

Domestic brand - inexpensive gas equipment Alfa. The reducer is designed in relation to the quality of gas at our gas stations.

What inconveniences will you have to put up with?

HBO has few disadvantages, but they must be taken into account:

1. You will have to spend money on high-quality gas equipment and installation in a specialized service. Installing high-tech equipment in a garage or with your own hands is difficult and dangerous. In addition, troubles such as dips when pressing the accelerator pedal while using gas may appear. If the gearbox is connected to a heating/cooling system in a home-made manner, it may freeze.
2. It is necessary to carefully monitor the regularity of scheduled technical inspections and checks of the gas tank.
3. The gas cylinder will take up some space in the trunk. The way out of this situation is to place a toroidal cylinder in the lower part of the trunk instead of a spare wheel.
4. If the Granta is under warranty from the dealer, then it will lose it.

On a note! A slight decrease in vehicle power can be successfully solved by installing an ignition timing variator (IAC), which increases the efficiency and performance characteristics of the engine.

Disadvantages of using gas equipment

• The weight of the vehicle will increase after installing gas equipment.
• It is necessary to spend money on installing equipment. This drawback is significant if the car is rarely used, that is, its mileage is less than 10,000 kilometers per year. It will take from 3 to 5 years to recoup the funds spent. With more intensive use, the cost of the equipment will be compensated after 15-25 thousand kilometers.
• Underfilling during refueling due to the use of different equipment. The gas supply stops after the pressure sensor is triggered, and at gas stations they stop refueling at different times.
• HBO takes up space, which is already not enough in a passenger car. Accordingly, the load capacity decreases. A way out of the situation may be to install a toroidal cylinder in the spare wheel compartment, but what can we do without it? SUVs with an alternative spare tire location and a large trunk volume, which is not particularly affected by the dimensions of the gas cylinder, have an advantage.
• Gas is explosive! The equipment requires periodic inspection, and it is best to install it in a certified service center.
• The dynamics of acceleration, as well as the maximum speed, are reduced, which is caused by the slow combustion of gas. It is also necessary to adjust the ignition for a different fuel.
• The air filter will have to be changed more often.
• Gas filling stations are not as widespread as petrol and diesel ones.
• Installing an LPG is a fairly serious intervention in the design of a vehicle. There is a high probability that the official dealer who sold the car will revoke the warranty, even if the equipment installers’ permits are provided.

conclusions

Installing an LPG on a Lada Granta justifies itself when you have to use the car constantly and consume fuel over long distances. It is also relevant when operating a vehicle in urban conditions, when there is increased fuel consumption. The dual-fuel system significantly increases the autonomous mileage of the liftback.

Amendments to the law in 2022 will make it easier to legalize gas equipment installed earlier in 2016 and at the same time do not allow driving on gas without registration.

The time and costs spent on installing gas equipment at certified stations and regular technical inspections pay for themselves in safe and accident-free driving and a long service life of the vehicle without repairs.

Lada Granta is available with a 1.6-liter engine, power from 82 to 106 hp, front-wheel drive, manual or automatic transmission. Lada Granta is very economical. Combined cycle consumption is 8.5 liters per hundred.

The machine is not the easiest in terms of installing gas equipment. Gas equipment from Digitronik or Tamona fits perfectly on the Lada Granta and works flawlessly. There are two options for installing a gas cylinder:

1. 60 liter cylindrical cylinder behind the rear seats in the luggage compartment. In this case, the spare tire is retained in the car, but part of the trunk is eaten away
2. 42 liter toroidal cylinder in the spare wheel niche. In this case, the trunk remains completely free, but the spare wheel will have to be left in the garage

When running on gas, the Lada Granta consumes approximately 9.4 liters per 100 km.

Each time you fill up a full tank, you will save 965 rubles.

The installation will pay for itself within 18,226 km . If you don’t travel a lot: work, fishing, or at the dacha - you will finish the installation in 9 months. If it’s more, it’s much faster.

The average car ownership period in Russia is 3 years or 60,000 km. mileage

During this time, you will save more than 98,000 rubles on gas.

For Lada Granta owners, we have made a special comprehensive offer: installation of 4th generation LPG from Digitronik or Tamon with a 42-liter toroidal cylinder in the spare wheel well, along with a set of documents for registering the car with the traffic police at the price of a regular installation - only 29,900 . So Thus, you save at least 5,000 rubles on installation. This is exactly how much it costs to prepare documents for those who installed gas equipment and did not register it with the traffic police. This offer is valid only until January 31, 2017. Further, the preparation of a set of documents for the registration of gas equipment will be paid separately.

For those who use the machine throughout the work week and cannot leave it for installation, this is good news. From January 4, 2022, we are also open on Saturday and Sunday. Now you can switch your car to gas and start saving on gasoline at any time convenient for you. Even on weekends.

Another important addition: for those who cannot pay the entire amount for installation at once , we are ready to offer installments and split the payment into 2 or 3 monthly installments.

Gas consumption of three trim levels of the LADA Granta sedan. The difference in the cost of refueling gas and gasoline. Autonomous mileage before and after installing LPG.

How to register an LPG with the traffic police? Instructions and rules

The procedure for making changes to the design of the car, including when installing gas equipment, is as follows:

1. before starting work:

1. undergo a preliminary technical examination. The examination is carried out only by accredited organizations, a list of which is presented on the website Eurasiancommission.org,
2. obtain permission from the traffic police to make changes;

after completing the work:

pass a technical inspection, undergo a re-examination, receive a certificate and enter its number in the PTS.

As I already said, it is easier to legitimize HBO than any other changes to the design of a car, since the certificate included with the equipment obviously makes the initial examination (clause 1.1) and the examination after the work (clause 2.2) meaningless. And reputable gas equipment installation companies obviously have the necessary forms from accredited expert organizations, of course, in full compliance with the law. Although you will still have to pay for both examinations.

We discussed in more detail the procedure for making changes in cases other than registering a gas equipment that has not yet been installed in a separate article.

Before installation

If the organization does not have the forms, then contact an accredited expert organization directly. If there is none in your city, then the request for an examination is sent by letter by mail.

Having received the conclusion of the first examination, we go to the traffic police and obtain permission to install gas equipment. There is no state fee for issuing a permit.

Installation of HBO

In fact, work can only be carried out in certified centers whose employees are certified to carry out work with gas equipment. The manufacturer of work to make changes to the design of the vehicle, according to GOST 31972-2013, upon completion of the work must transfer the following documents to the owner of the car:

• application-declaration on the volume and quality of work to make changes to the design of the vehicle, drawn up by a legal entity or individual entrepreneur,
• a duly certified copy (by the LPG manufacturer, supplier or seller) of the certificate of conformity for the LPG kit that you are drawing up regarding its installation on a specific type of vehicle with annexes on the composition of the kit, indicating the designation of the documentation for the components and their compliance with safety requirements ,
• a certificate of form 2a certified in the prescribed manner on the compliance of the vehicle with the safety requirements established for it by the HBO,
• a certificate of form 2b certified in the prescribed manner on the conduct of periodic tests of the gas equipment installed on the vehicle.

After installation

1. The next step is visiting a technical inspection point

Please note that the diagnostic card you receive based on the results of the technical inspection contains a note about the installed gas equipment. In particular, the curb weight of the vehicle will increase in accordance with the weight of the set of gas equipment with a filled cylinder and a mark indicating the new type of fuel must be indicated

2. After passing the technical inspection, we undergo a second examination. As I already said, you do all this in the same organization that supplied the equipment.

3. Next - to the MREO for registration of changes to the design.

You will have to visit the traffic police in two stages, especially if you register through State Services. At the first stage, you receive a “Certificate of Changes to the Design.”

On the second - a new registration certificate, with entries made in the PTS.

• state duty for a certificate for making changes to the design - 800 rubles,
• for a new registration certificate – 500 rubles,
• for making changes to the PTS – 350 rubles.

It’s cheaper through State Services. And don't forget to make copies of all documents!

Gasoline consumption

Gasoline consumption for Granta sedans

Gas consumption and savings

Propane consumption for Granta sedans, savings

Methane and Granta. Methane equipment is not compatible with some engines. Check the technical feasibility of installing methane on your LADA Granta sedan with the manager: - around the clock.

On average, methane consumption in the city is close to gasoline consumption. On the highway, consumption is 15-20% slower. Methane is cheaper than propane by one and a half rubles per liter.

Fuel consumption VAZ (Lada) Granta Sedan 1.6 MT (87 hp) • Typical faults

Like overall fuel consumption, which I already discussed in this article, fuel consumption at idle speed is influenced by many factors, including. Replace faulty parts The throttle position sensor, absolute pressure and air temperature sensors in the intake manifold or their circuits are faulty Check the sensors and their circuits Restore contact in the electrical circuits, replace the faulty sensor sensors Increased resistance to the movement of gases in the exhaust system Inspect the exhaust system for dented and damaged pipes, check the condition of the catalytic converter Replace damaged components of the exhaust system Malfunctions of the chassis and brake system Check the chassis components and brake system Adjust the wheel alignment angles, replace faulty chassis parts, eliminate faults in the brake system.

Examples of savings calculations in St. Petersburg

Let's calculate the difference in the cost of refueling gas and gasoline using two examples:

• From Nevsky Prospekt to the Ring Road and back in St. Petersburg 60 km. Let's take this distance as the daily mileage rate and calculate the benefit for the month.
• From St. Petersburg to Moscow - 710 km. Let's calculate how much you can save on a trip to Moscow and back.

Savings after switching to gas

If you use LADA Granta rarely and travel short distances, the benefit will be insignificant. But if you spend more than an hour driving every day, HBO will pay for itself in the first year. Calculate how much you will save at the gas station based on your mileage in the savings calculator.

Tell your friends how to save money while driving:

Gas tank capacity, autonomous mileage on gasoline

Gas tank of the LADA Granta sedan, autonomous mileage

Mileage after installing HBO

Total mileage Grants on a full gas tank and a full gas cylinder

With a gas cylinder, LADA Granta will travel twice as far. Now you don't have to worry about missing a gas station.

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Gas Performance Benefits

IN COMBINATION, THESE FACTORS EXTEND THE ENGINE LIFE BY

Gas extends the life of oil and spark plugs and reduces vehicle maintenance costs.

Gas burns a little slower than gasoline, which reduces the load on the piston group and crankshaft, causing the engine to run smoother.

The gas mixes easily with air and fills the cylinders more evenly with a homogeneous mixture, so the engine runs smoother and quieter. The gas mixture burns almost completely, so no carbon deposits form in the pistons, valves and spark plugs.

The octane number of petroleum gas is 103-105, which virtually eliminates detonation of engine parts. This advantage of gas can be especially important for engines with a high compression ratio that consume high-octane (and therefore expensive) gasoline.

The gas does not contain harmful impurities (lead, sulfur), which at the chemical level destroy the combustion chamber parts, catalytic converter and lambda probe.

The gas enters the engine in the vapor phase, so it does not wash away the oil film from the walls and does not dilute the oil in the crankcase.

Savings on fuel are greater than the overpayment on the loan

First payment 0 rub.

Loan term from 1 month

Loan cost 1.6% per month

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Switch to gas and start saving

You will get back the overpaid money for using a two-year loan in the second month of operating the system.

On average, the savings per year when driving on gas is 50,000 rubles.

Save up to 200,000 rubles per year

1 km of mileage on gas is 2 times cheaper than 1 km of mileage on gasoline

Calculate the savings of driving on gas compared to using gasoline

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2. Indicate the mileage of your car per year

Having extensive experience in operating gas equipment (this is already the 4th gas-powered car!), I can confidently say that AGTS specialists are the best professionals in converting cars to gas in St. Petersburg. no less than 100 percent. The feeling is super, if you have any doubts, I highly recommend it.

This is the second time I've come here. Hyundai Accent is my second car and, accordingly, my second LPG. Just like the first time, I installed Italian equipment from Lovato. It seems to me that it is the best. At least it’s very easy to set up, which can’t be said about other systems. And stability in operation: the settings are the same as they are. In total, I have been using HBO for 4 years now, and no problems. The most important thing is to regularly visit maintenance and immediately correct errors if something is wrong.

How to set up and adjust HBO on an engine with a carburetor

Let's start with the fact that when it comes to gas equipment on a carburetor engine, the main manipulations come down to the settings of the evaporator reducer. The specified gearbox allows you to do the following:

• adjust the gas pressure in relation to the second stage (adjust sensitivity);
• set the amount of gas that passes through the XX valve;

So, the general setup procedure is as follows:

• First, the engine starts, and the start must be done on gasoline.
• Next, the gasoline-powered power unit must reach operating temperatures.
• After warming up, you need to set the idle speed on the carburetor to 950-1000 rpm.
• Next, you need to turn off the gasoline supply and wait until the remaining gas is used up.

Now let's move on to setting up the HBO. At the initial stage of adjustments you should:

• Unscrew the dispenser completely (the cross-section of the gas supply channel is open as much as possible).
• If the dispenser has separate sections, allowing for separate adjustments for each chamber, then the first chamber is set to full channel opening, and the second channel is set to a minimum.
• The adjusting screw, which allows you to adjust XX, is first fully tightened, after which it should be released 5 turns;
• As for the sensitivity screw, it should be set to the middle position.

Next you need to start setting the idle mode. After all the manipulations described above have been completed, the car engine needs to be started, and the start-up is already done on gas. It is also necessary to pull out the “suction”.

Then you should raise the speed to 1750-1950 rpm, then, turning the idle screw several turns, the choke is removed in parallel. The operation often has to be done several times. The main task is to find an idle speed such that, with the choke completely removed, the engine runs stably at idle.

In the case when the idle speed begins to fluctuate greatly, then the idle speed screw is unscrewed to the maximum. If stable operation of the motor cannot be achieved, then the sensitivity screw is tightened back a couple of turns, after which the entire adjustment procedure is repeated again.

As you can see, it is necessary to find the right balance between the gas “amount” screw and the idle speed screw. A successful result can be considered when the sensitivity screw is fully tightened, and the idle speed is about 1150-1200 rpm, while the motor runs smoothly.

The final stage can be considered an additional adjustment of the idle speed using the appropriate screw. The specified screw is tightened a little more, the speed drops to the minimum possible, then the screw is unscrewed a little, and the XX speed should reach around 1 thousand rpm.