Good afternoon Tell me what to do, I had a bad start with the cold Kalina. Sometimes you have to start it several times, the speed is low and it doesn’t hold up. You need to add gas, and then they will be leveled. What could be the problem? I'll go for diagnostics as a last resort if I can't figure it out on my own.
I don’t even know; without diagnostics it will be difficult to determine the cause. It is necessary to measure the pressure in the fuel rail, look at the spark plugs, clean the throttle valve, check the sensors. Too much work
Buy a simple on-board computer and install it on your Kalina...
I will give priority to:
- replace spark plugs;
- replace high-voltage cables;
- check the temperature sensor;
- check and replace TPS if necessary;
somehow like this
You have a bad start with cold Kalina, as I know this problem well. I myself spent a lot of time and effort resolving an unpleasant situation. Looking at the front part, I will say that you can give power to the engine of your car yourself, at least I personally succeeded. Now I’ll tell you in order what I checked, what I replaced so that Kalina would start normally.
Eliminating air leaks
Air leaks are another common cause of engine starting problems. If you are choking on air or even freezing, rest assured that it is an air leak. You need to look in the following places:
- through the intake manifold gasket;
- vacuum booster;
- throttle valve gasket;
- absorption valve;
Carefully check all these elements, as well as the condition of the gaskets. Go through all the ducts, maybe damaged somewhere. The suction system tubes must also be intact. Don't forget about them. You can also use the following method: start the engine, let it run, then walk around the car and listen, hoping to hear the characteristic sound of an air leak.
It will be sparkling. Then we clamp the pipes that go into the intake manifold. Having clamped the hoses, we monitor the operation of the engine. If there are any changes, there is a leak in the area of the vacuum booster and pressure regulator. In general, this problem is quite serious and requires a lot of time and perseverance. You can totally do this yourself.
Why is viburnum difficult to start?
Wear of CPG parts
At first, this problem may only occur when the engine is started cold. The owner will notice terrible vibrations and a slight deviation in idle speed. As they warm up, the parts of the cylinder-piston group expand and the backlash goes away. The motor works as it should. But as soon as it cools down, the vibrations repeat again.
Wear of the cylinder-piston group
If you notice this feature, check the compression in the cylinders:
- for gasoline engines the normal value is from 10 to 14 Bar;
- for diesel engines - from 20 to 28.
The pressure difference across the cylinders should be no more than 10 percent. If the results are disappointing, it is worth performing an endoscopy of the engine. It happens that the “hon” on the walls is intact, but the compression is still low. There are several reasons. One of the simplest ones is burnout of the cylinder head gasket. If the gasket is intact, look at the valves and rings.
Occurrence of rings
A common cause of low compression is coked rings. This occurs due to the use of bad oil or fuel, or untimely maintenance. Decarbonization will help solve the problem, but this requires disassembling the engine.
Electrics
The last prerequisite for such a malfunction to occur is electronic parts and circuits. Therefore, the discrepancy could be in the starter, electrical control unit or wiring. We discard the main cause of the battery, since if it dies, the car will not start a second time. Let's see what our client can do separately.
Starter
Tasks at work and failure of parts of this unit are a prerequisite for a disgusting start.
Thus, a breakdown of the solenoid relay or bendix is a prerequisite for Kalina not starting the first time. In addition, it is worth checking the wires, which may oxidize and pass contacts once.
Wiring
Malfunctions and problems in the wiring are variations that serve as a prerequisite for the car not to start the first time. Therefore, it is worth finding the problem between the battery terminals and the starter, as well as the ignition coil and spark plugs.
Soot on the spark plugs will serve as a prerequisite for a disgusting engine start
The electrical control unit is the main condition for the car not to want to start the first time. Consequently, many errors result in the issuance of incorrect commands. For example, the amount of fuel supplied is incorrect or the texture is richer. It is worth getting into the ECU if the fuel system, ignition and starter have been checked. The cause can be eliminated by clearing errors or changing the firmware.
Electrical control unit errors
How and why the immobilizer fails
Let's dwell on this topic in a little more detail. The thing is that the ECU controller on this model is located under the heater radiator. In second-generation models, the controller was moved.
First of all, when exposed to liquid, the output switch burns out. The chip can be re-soldered, but after such repairs the problems will go away for literally two months, and then they will appear again. The heater radiator will need to be replaced. If this problem exists, then experts recommend installing a new controller between the engine compartment partition and the stove.
Now about the immobilizer - in Kalina cars the manufacturer installs APS-6 immobilizers. In very rare cases, these devices fail on their own. Often, the problem is hidden in the wiring or control panel. The key fob body is held together with one self-tapping screw - the screw can be overtightened or undertightened. A crack appears on the remote device chip between the transponder contacts. In this case, if the Kalina does not start, only a spare or training key, or replacing the remote control will help.
Lada Kalina won't start
Every driver sooner or later may find himself in a very unpleasant situation: the car, despite all efforts, does not start. There is no need to panic in such a situation - the breakdown is easy to fix if its cause is identified in a timely manner. Next, we will look at why the Lada Kalina engine may not start well, the starter does not turn, and how to fix this problem as soon as possible.
If the fuel pump is not working properly, the car may not want to start. As a result, the engine will not run despite the starter turning. You will hear the sound of a pump pumping fuel.
To check that the system pressure is correct, simply unscrew the black cap located on the left side of the hood. You will have access to the nipple. If when you press the nipple it splashes, the cause of the malfunction is the pump.
Most often, the cause of the breakdown lies in the immobilizer installed on cars with an 8-valve engine. To identify it, make sure: does it squeak? Reflashing the immobilizer is also the first sign of a malfunction. Self-repair is problematic, since the part is quite complex. To avoid making the situation worse, contact a specialist.
Poor fuel quality can directly affect the condition of the engine. The worse the gasoline, the faster the spark plugs fill, which means their service life is sharply reduced. The deep filter becomes clogged with condensate at sub-zero temperatures. To prevent this from happening, it is recommended to add a little pure alcohol to the gasoline.
Also, Lada Kalina may not start for the following reasons:
- The starter spins, but does not engage. Make sure the spark plugs are in good working order.
- The starter bendix does not work due to an internal fault.
- Oil rings or piston assembly wear out over time.
- Valves are blocked.
The most serious failure is considered to be a broken timing belt. Unfortunately, you can’t get rid of this on your own. To make sure that the part is intact, you need to open the front timing cover.
The easiest way to solve the problems listed above is at a car service center. If they are not very serious, you can do the repairs yourself. In any case, you need to know the specific reasons why your Lada Kalina does not start. Let's consider some specific cases of engine failure of this model.
Clogged fuel filter
Considering the quality of the fuel, especially in the regions, you should pay attention to replacing the fuel filter more often. The filter is located on the bottom of the car, in the trunk area, not far from the exhaust pipe. The replacement itself is simple if you have the right tool at hand.
If the fuel filter is faulty, the engine may experience tripping, as the fuel does not flow evenly.
Ways to solve the problem
So, you are already familiar with the basic prerequisites for refusal. Now let's move on to working directly with the engine components. To diagnose the system at home:
- Remove the fuse. Carefully inspect all system components at the time of damage. To find out which fuse controls which element, inspect the back of the cover. We check the safety elements responsible for the ignition coil, immobilizer, battery, fuel pump and starter. If no damage is found, proceed to the next step.
- We check the fuel system. To do this, you will need to disassemble the fuel pump by removing it. If the fuel pump components operate normally, return the fuel pump to its original position. We check the condition of the injectors and replace the fuel filter with a new one.
- We remove the wiring block from the car’s cooling system sensors and try to start the engine. Let's check the cooling system sensor. If the indicators are significantly lower or higher than normal, it will not work normally.
If the problem cannot be identified and the vehicle still does not operate properly, it is recommended that you completely disassemble the engine and take a closer look at the condition of each of its components. Make sure you wash all auto parts. Replace broken parts with new ones, remove rust stains.
Bearings and bushings should only be replaced in pairs. Failure to observe this precaution may result in the starter overshooting. Replace self-release magnets with a glass housing.
It is not recommended to weld parts, as they may fall out when the temperature rises. The parts are installed by welding. Accordingly, to perform the work you will need a special extractor, tester, press and welding machine.
Bendix replacement
The most common cause of engine failure with a rotary starter is a broken bendix. Its cost is low, so there is no point in repairing the part. Literally, Bendix is considered consumable. Replace it by following simple instructions:
- We remove the old snack. Beforehand, disconnect the negative terminal from the battery and remove all mounting bolts and nuts using a screwdriver and wrench.
- The retraction unit also needs to be disassembled.
- Disconnect the traction relay from the housing. It must first be disassembled.
- We take out the entire starter, removing the fasteners. We put it aside.
- We find the safety ring and disassemble it. We take out the bendix.
Reassemble the mechanism in reverse order and start the car. If no errors were made during assembly, the car starts quickly. The main thing is to choose a new snack that is identical to the original one.
To summarize, we note that engine malfunction is not always the cause of the breakdown. It is possible to identify the “pain point” only with an integrated approach. If you are not experienced enough and are afraid of aggravating the situation, then it is better not to repair the car yourself.
Many motorists have encountered a problem when the Lada Kalina does not start for the first time. This may be due to various reasons that need to be known and eliminated in time. In this article we will look at the main reasons why the car does not start the first time and how to fix these problems.
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Who has trouble starting when warm after parking for a short time?
Lada Kalina wagon 2014, engine Gasoline 1.6 liter., 87 hp, Front drive, Manual — observation
Comments 27
same trouble, engine 21127
What could be the reason?
Developer's hands. If from a technical point of view, I don’t know.
This is fucking gas
What's wrong with him?
I had this happen until I replaced the battery, turn the key and there’s silence. It sets in 5-10 times, or when it cools down.
If I feel that the starter is idling, I press the gas pedal halfway and it starts right away. I read it on the internet and use it in this situation. It helps 100%
Try relieving pressure on the ramp before starting
I cleaned the throttle, at 30 tkm, now 66 it starts again every other time, I think cleaning somehow helps.
If this happens constantly, for example, after three to five minutes of parking, then this is 100% of the injectors. I had this happen on the 14th, until I press the gas pedal, it won’t start, and when it’s cold, it’s half a kick.
My mileage is 15,000, is it really possible that the engine will lose power at such a mileage?
Maybe this happened to me at 18,000 miles
On a priority vehicle with an automatic transmission, if the break is very short, then the first time there is a chance of breaking off. And if it stands for a little while, the launch will be 100 pounds.
What kind of gasoline are you using?
Same bullshit! Constantly ! out of 10 times 3 times it won't start
I cleaned the damper, once every two to three months. From the second it definitely starts)
Clean the throttle, it makes a big difference. This happened to me myself until I cleaned it.
Main reasons
The engine does not start the first time
Kalina has a fairly common reason why it does not start the first time. This is due to design, wear and electrical issues. But it is worth breaking down the problems into categories and examining them in more detail. So, let's look at the main categories into which this malfunction is divided:
- Problem with the fuel system.
- The cause is fire.
- Failure of timing elements.
- The problem is in the functioning of the electrical circuits and the computer.
When everything has been decided on the reasons, it is worth taking a closer look at them and how to eliminate them on the car.
Fuel system
The first reason why a car may not start the first time is the fuel system. Not enough fuel or too much gasoline becomes a problem. In this case, the starter spins, but starting the engine is difficult. If the starter does not turn and the immobilizer icon is flashing, the problem is on the immobilizer side.
Fuel pump wear
A failed fuel pump or clogged fuel filter can cause insufficient fuel line pressure and poor mixture. As a result, the small amount of fuel in the combustion chambers is not enough to start the engine. If too much fuel is supplied, the spark plugs are simply thrown out and there is no spark to ignite, preventing the engine from starting.
Ignition
The second reason for poor starting is a malfunction of the ignition system. The problem could lie in the following nodes:
- Ignition switch malfunction.
- Breakage of high-voltage cables.
- Spark plugs are worn out or dirty.
When considering the problem, you must first of all pay attention to the spark plugs, clean them and adjust the gaps with a feeler gauge.
Next, check the ignition wires, resistance and insulation damage. If necessary, it is worth replacing faulty products.
Worn or damaged high voltage wiring results in poor resistance
Gas distribution mechanism
You can often find in manuals that this is not the first time that startup is associated with improper operation of the gas distribution mechanism. This is due, first of all, to carbon deposits that form on the valves, as well as to incorrect operation of the valve timing. The fault should be looked for in the camshafts, as well as in the position of the crankshaft relative to the camshaft.
Another reason could be wear on the timing belt and pulley. A tight belt can interfere with valve timing. It is worth checking and, if necessary, installing a new timing belt repair kit.
The correct location of the timing marks, if it does not correspond to the picture, then this is the reason for poor engine starting
Electrics
The last reason for such a malfunction is parts and electrical circuits. This means the problem could be with the starter, engine control unit or wiring. We discard the main cause of the battery, because if it dies, then the car will not start the second time. Let's consider all the reasons separately.
Starter
Problems in operation and failure of elements of this unit can cause poor starting.
Consequently, failure of the solenoid relay or bendix may result in Kalina not starting the first time. In addition, it is worth checking the wires, which over time can oxidize and cause contacts to pass through.
Wiring
Malfunctions and wiring problems may prevent the vehicle from starting for the first time. So, it is worth looking for a problem between the battery terminals and the starter, as well as the ignition coil and spark plugs.
Carbon deposits on spark plugs can cause poor engine starting.
The ECU may be the main reason why your car doesn't want to start the first time. Therefore, a large number of errors may result in incorrect commands being issued. For example, the amount of fuel supplied is incorrect or the mixture is rich. It is worth getting into the ECU after a proven fuel supply, ignition and starting system. The cause can be eliminated by clearing errors or changing the firmware.
Errors in the electronic control unit
Poor quality fuel
Spark plugs can also flood due to bad gasoline.
This is another reason why the engine does not start. Very often, condensation forms in winter and clogs the coarse filter. To avoid this, periodically add pure alcohol to the tank in winter. It smokes, sneezes, smokes like a snake Gorynych, this often happens in our time, but, as a rule, people have some remnants of conscience and they try not to reduce gasoline to a non-flammable state.
The car can even run on this kind of gasoline, the only problem is that it is absolutely not useful for the engine. To avoid this, refuel at large chain gas stations.
They, as a rule, monitor their reputation and do not allow this to happen, but if it turns out that you have filled in burnt gasoline, and even so much that the car does not want to start, you can drain the gasoline and fill in another, road gas, or if there is not much left , you can fill in more good 95 gasoline and its mixture with palenka will be more or less normal.
Of course, there are severe cases when filters and injectors become clogged and they have to be washed out for a long time and tediously (or whatever is easier to change), but this happens mainly when buying gasoline from some garage “oil workers”.
It’s quite easy to protect yourself from them - just refuel at trusted places and under no circumstances buy gasoline from any garage gas dealers. In principle, they are not such a common occurrence now, but they still occur, and people buy gasoline from them because it is cheaper, but it is better not to do this, the stingy pays twice - an immutable truth.
And if you really had to buy such a piece of water, at least filter it, there is no need to clog the filter with nozzles.
