On December 15, 2015, the AvtoVAZ concern began production of the Lada X-Ray model, and already on February 14, 2016, sales of this car, expected since 2012 and standing out sharply in the Lada line, began in Russia. Declared by the manufacturer as a compact crossover, claiming a worthy place among foreign competitors, X-Ray attracted the attention of car enthusiasts long before the start of sales.
Of course, with the appearance of the Lada XRay on the roads, they began to not only test it in terms of compliance with the characteristics declared by the manufacturer, but also compare it with foreign “classmates”.
Since any parameter is better assessed in comparison, let’s consider the characteristics of the Lada XRay and Lifan X60, a Chinese crossover that has managed to gain popularity in Russia within 3 years from the start of sales.
Purchase
Anton, drives a Priora
When I bought the car, I looked the truth in the eye, I understood that I couldn’t handle the expensive, but old, Germans, I didn’t want to take the very, very old Japanese either, I didn’t even look at the Chinese, because in my opinion, the Lada is better than China . The quality is the same, but the VAZ is at least its own, or something closer.
In fact, the choice was only between the models of our Tolyatti auto giant. Of all the things I liked the Priora the most. And the trunk is large enough to fit a baby stroller, and the appearance is youthful. And then there’s no shame in driving a Lada; it has the image of a normal car, albeit a budget one. But it’s scary to drive a Chinese car; everyone looks at you as if you’re “the smartest one” who wants to look cooler than he really is.
What’s good about “basins” is that spare parts for them cost pennies and are sold on every corner. But for the Chinese, you will always have to look for spare parts somewhere, order them, and wait. In addition, it is still unclear who will climb there, but you can figure out the VAZ yourself; the Internet is full of manuals on any topic.
Sergey, drives a Lifan Solano
When I was choosing a car, I absolutely didn’t want a VAZ. Of course, I didn’t want a Chinese one either, but I didn’t have the money for a Mercedes, so I had to choose the lesser evil. I chose Solano. I chose it purely based on characteristics. Engine 1.6 (106 hp), although there were also 1.8 (125 hp), fairly large wheelbase - 2605 mm, length - 4.5 meters, one might say C-class at that time. The trunk is normal - 386 liters.
The car also looked good, definitely better than any fourteeners and Kalinas, although the Priora was also okay. When I went to look at the first car, I immediately liked the interior. Yes, the plastic is hard, and everything is cheap, but everything looks nicer than in the Lada. My wife also liked the car.
Friends, however, dissuaded me. They said: “Why do you need a Chinese one, it will rot, if the first seller hasn’t already rotted it, you’ll get tired of looking for spare parts, etc.” etc.”, but I still decided to take the Solano, considering that since the car was built on the basis of the ninth Corolla of 1999, no matter how Chinese it was, it would still be better than the Priora, built on the platform of the ten , which in turn was developed by the Russians (and not the Japanese) back in the early nineties.
Grant without guarantees
Kalina Cross, whom we have known for a long time, has changed her facial expression and name - now she is Granta Cross. And I have two news for you on this matter: good and... However, the second is not news at all.
Let's start with the good one. Of the entire optimized grant family, I like the ex-Kalinas more than, in fact, the Grants. And Cross's version is probably my favorite. Yes, I still think that the Vesta-style front end looks comical, visually unbalancing the car. Yes, I regret that the plant decided to save money on cool Kalinovsky headlights with separate lamps for high and low beams and install simple optics with a single light source. Last time I indicated that this is an H4 standard lamp - and I was wrong: now it is called H19. Essentially the same H4, but with a 20% increased luminous flux. Subjectively, I didn’t notice this: the lighting became much worse than Kalina’s. But I know for sure that the H19 lamp is not easy to find on the open market, even in Moscow. Not to mention Adygea, where this test took place.
True, the need for invention is tricky: instead of H19, you can adapt an H4 lamp - you just need to bend a couple of antennae on the base. But technically this is an unauthorized modification to the design, so shhh, I didn't tell you about that.
By the way, Adygea has a lot of interesting roads and beautiful views, and the walk along the Guam Gorge really impressed me. But in order to drive on these roads acceptable, you need a cross-suspension: without normal energy consumption, entry into Adygea is prohibited. Behind the bend, a step ten centimeters high or a springboard depression may await you. The heat and timber trucks are to blame: high-quality mountain forests are being rapidly cut down, although locals say that the situation has now become better and the number of illegal plots has decreased.
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The cross does not travel on these roads - it flies. Is it really possible that this impending ravine will not cause either a breakdown or an impact? Indeed! And at the same time, the Granta Cross does not have excess rigidity on small sharp bumps, which so tired me while driving a regular sedan and liftback. And again I was pleased with the noise insulation: Granta Cross is quieter than most foreign cars of class B.
Even on rough roads, ex-Kalinas were pleased with the silence of the interior panels and suspension operation
In addition, Kalina is Kalina, even if it is now a Granta: as was the case in all previous years, it is more pleasant for the driver. Less laziness when entering corners, more connection to the steering wheel and the mood to drive. It is clear that the Cross can hardly be called a car for enthusiasts, but the depressing despondency with which the two Grants in the Zhiguli Mountains imbued me is not even close. Or is the whole point that I was unlucky with a copy then, but now I got a lucky one?
Familiar Kalinovsky interior
Alas, friends, the second news is that the four Crosses I tested were significantly different from each other. However, for VAZ vehicles this, unfortunately, is the norm. The seats are all different - somewhere harder, somewhere softer, somewhere the back is concave, somewhere convex. And if you can still check the seat at the stage of buying a car, then what to do with the suspension and electric power steering? Just believe in luck. The Kaluga company Autoelectronics would be better suited to produce encryption equipment - its amplifiers are so good at misrepresenting the reactive action. I came across one cool car - by Tolyatti standards, of course. Equal effort in both directions, no information content, no shocks on the steering wheel. But on the other Grant Cross the steering wheel was spinning viscously to the right (to the left is normal), the third was throwing pokes at it... Somewhere the tight and long-travel brake pedal was upsetting, especially in contrast to the soft and precise one. There is less variation in the suspensions, and in general I rather liked all the Crosses for their smooth ride. However, it’s still a shame to get a more rolly car when another one holds the body in corners and is not at all stiffer. In this case, the numbers on all parts match until the last line of the barcode.
The updated devices surprised us with constant glare from the sun - in summer they are almost unreadable
How AvtoVAZ lacks strict selection of components and careful work with suppliers! The VAZ workers themselves counter – they say, this is exactly what they are doing now. They say that the tolerances themselves are small, but when the details of opposite extremes coincide, the results are not very good.
If you are going to buy Grant, try the version with the AMT “robot”: it’s good now. The lever does not have a separate parking position, so you need to either turn off the engine in gear or apply the handbrake in neutral
But they can, as happened with the “robot” AMT. With the firmware updated last summer, it works logically and clearly. A soft start from a standstill immediately after releasing the brake, and unlike Vesta, there are no vibrations. Shifts are fast, and downward also with over-throttle, so you won’t nod your head. And the best part is that even in extreme heat in the thirties and aggressive driving on mountain roads, the gearbox never malfunctioned.
There is an acceptable amount of space in the back for people of average height, while tall people will ask those sitting in front to make room.
For comparison, I drove a Cross with a manual transmission and the same sixteen-valve engine 21129 with a power of 106 hp. And I didn’t understand why I needed to constantly depress the clutch pedal and move the lever. In the mountains, the engine is frankly sluggish, every now and then you need to turn it down... So let the “robot” do it! The only pity is that, unlike Vesta, there is no Auto Hold function here, when after releasing the brake pedal on a slope, the car continues to stand for a second or two so that you have time to put your foot on the gas. In such cases, it is safer to hold the grant with the handbrake.
According to our measurements, there are only 434 real liters in the trunk of the station wagon versus 533 for the liftback and almost 600 for the sedan. There is a 14-inch rolling wheel under the floor, there is an opening button on the lid
And they don’t yet offer a stabilization system for the Cross - the car itself, of course, is not “arrogant,” but the buyer still needs to be given a choice. Three trim levels are now available: the Classic version with the well-deserved 1.6 eight-valve engine with 87 hp. costs 554,900 rubles, the optimal Comfort with a “robot” and a more powerful engine is 618 thousand, and the most expensive Cross is priced at 644 thousand. Let me remind you that now all VAZ engines have counterbores on the pistons, which save the engine if the timing belt breaks.
Compared to a regular station wagon, you need to pay about thirty thousand rubles for an additional 23 mm of ground clearance, a nice body kit and wheels. Quite a lot - considering that the Granta station wagon without the Cross prefix has quite a respectable 175 mm of ground clearance and a fairly energy-intensive suspension. And if you remember the prices of 2021, when Kalina Cross first appeared, then... It’s better, of course, not to remember: then it could be bought for 409 thousand rubles.
There haven't been prices like this for a long time. But there are no guarantees that for your money you will get a “successful” Granta Cross with a very good level of consumer qualities inherent in it. And by God, it’s time to do something about this.
Two years later
Anton, Priora
In two years I covered 35,000 km. Initially the mileage was 88 thousand km (I hope not twisted), now it is 123 thousand. The engine is the most lively, it makes little noise: on the highway at a speed of 90 - 6 liters, in the city about 9 l/100 km.
Since I've owned the car, I've changed almost the entire suspension. I also replaced the power steering, ignition switch, generator, I’m not talking about light bulbs and little things. There are some chips on the hood, I haven't touched it up and they don't seem to be rusting. The bumper peels off - this is a real disaster, it’s good that the car is black and not particularly noticeable.
One day, when it was raining, the windshield wipers failed, and it turned out that the motor had become unscrewed from the trapezoid. Sometimes the car simply refused to start. You start it from the pushrod, go to the dealer, he does diagnostics - everything is fine. Turn it off, start it - everything is fine. Then, for unknown reasons, bam again and it won’t start. This was terribly infuriating, I went to different electricians, but no one found the reason.
However, all this did not cost much. Besides, I’m happy with the car itself, the engine isn’t stifled, it’s very peppy, there’s enough power on the highway, it’s tax-friendly, and OSAGO is a little cheaper.
Sergey, Solano
I wasn't disappointed in the car one bit. As it turned out, there were no problems with spare parts. Maybe due to the fact that Solano is a fairly common model, or maybe it’s even a myth from the early 2000s. In terms of price, by the way, they are not particularly more expensive than VAZ ones. Air filter - 108 rubles, brake pads - 360 rubles, clutch - 4000, thermostat - 450 rubles, radiator - 2100 rubles and so on. In general, I spent 13,250 rubles on repairs and spare parts in 2 years. And this despite the fact that I screwed up when buying and bought a virtually dead car.
The car rusts, but it only rusts if you don't take care of it. Immediately after the purchase, I cleaned and tinted, as required, small spots of rust on the wings, pillars, arches and applied anti-corrosion protection, since then everything has been fine. If a chip appears, I try to touch up the paint immediately.
The engine is excellent, Toyota. I know a taxi driver who has already driven 315 thousand kilometers on Solano, but nothing has been done to the engine at all and he feels great. There is no oil consumption, consumption on the highway is around 6 liters per hundred, in the city about eight.
Nothing rattles in the cabin (but everything in Anton’s Priora rattles - for some reason he didn’t say anything about it), and in winter it starts up with a bang. The interior is more spacious than the Priora.
As it turns out, no one is pointing a finger at me. And the car doesn’t look as bad as it seemed before. The mileage at the time of purchase was 74,000 km, now it is 120 thousand. I'm not going to change the car yet, I'm happy with everything. As it turns out, the Chinese are not so scary after all. I wish I had a new one like this.
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Guys, just compare for yourself how old the auto industry is and what it is. Who produces and how many brands. We've been churning out classics for as long as they've been around. Sometimes something new appears. But I wouldn’t call it a significant advance. Granta is the same “ten”, only with a different hairstyle. The Chinese auto industry is growing, but what about ours? I’m not against VAZs, but the price of our cars could clearly be reduced by 20 percent, then we could call it “price-quality”. And with such prices for our cars... A Chinese is better than a VAZ. This is my personal opinion.
Only rather not the Ten, but the Kalina... After all, the Grant was made on the basis of the Kalina, and it was a separate development. But Priora is, after all, a Ten...
Volodya, you should also post the price for comparison, it would be a complete set!
China has long shown the whole world its G-spot)))! They definitely make better cars than ours! And our cars, for a long time now, have components from China VAZ and drag! I had a conversation with a man, he shouted China and not to life! I give him an argument: 1) Is your household appliances all made in China? Him: Well, yes! 2) Are the products on the shelves often also from China? Him: Probably yes! What does this have to do with the car? 3) I told him: Should I take your “Kalina” (the simplest) timing belt rollers when you changed them with a belt? Did you take them off? What was written? Him: Made in China! Here! You say you live in all Chinese, around everything is Chinese (although they can add a brand, but under license from China! So why is it worse than a car from the heavenly kingdom of what surrounds us?! Fuck says, but you’re right!
Solano is almost the same Corolla, only they don’t even stand next to each other, Lifan crumbles before our eyes. A friend comes sometimes for repairs! So on Solano: light, optics - disposable! Chrome is climbing! The salon is creaking! You won’t find some spare parts or you’ll have to wait a very long time! I don’t know about Grant, but I think it will still be better!
I wonder how she drives, that it crumbles before our eyes? There are, of course, some “childhood sores”. But not critical. My blog and that of other users is proof of this. Spare parts are also no problems now. We do not live under developed socialism. 70% - from the same 120 Corolla, on the basis of which, in fact, Solano was made. I don’t know... Okay, if you think Grant is better, then why? The points. Please.
I'm not going to argue!) I don't know Grant, I wrote it! But I know Lifan a little! You're wrong about being critical! Let's take at least the brackets that press the lamps into the PTF. They bend like copper wire, i.e. no talk about fire safety! The license plate lamps are melted! The main headlights inside are all covered in dust... In general, Solano is a good car for the money, but not for everyone... A lot needs to be improved!
Let me disagree with you, I have a Lifan Solano, I bought it at the dealership in 2011 and I still continue to drive it, only consumables change, although I recently changed the wheel bearing on the right front wheel and that’s it. I drive every day, the car is not parked, the speedometer shows 123,563 km. In a word, the car is not bad! A relative has a grant from this year, so he goes to the service more often than to the dacha! Now he also wants a Chinese one.
I'm not saying that Solano won't drive!)) You just need to improve it a little and watch it more often!
I agree, it is necessary to monitor the technical condition of any car. Otherwise, even a jaguar can become an “asshole”!
I wonder how she drives, that it crumbles before our eyes? There are, of course, some “childhood sores”. But not critical. My blog and that of other users is proof of this. Spare parts are also no problems now. We do not live under developed socialism. 70% - from the same 120 Corolla, on the basis of which, in fact, Solano was made. I don’t know... Okay, if you think Grant is better, then why? The points. Please.
Which is better Lifan Solano or Renault Logan
At a quick glance, the Solano is superior to the Renault Logan in terms of equipment, appearance and interior design. Frankly speaking, Renault is superior to Solano in some ways, and this is shown by the sale of Renault in Russia, in terms of such qualities as reliability and ease of repair. When buying a new Lebanon Solano, it is premature to talk about reliability, because the mileage has not yet been checked. A few months ago I bought myself Lifan Solano. During this time, the car has covered about 5,000 km and currently has no serious breakdowns. The suspension does not knock even at -40 degrees Celsius, the dashboard works with a bang. I can list some situations that I encountered while operating the car during this time. We had to tighten the clamps because in severe frosts antifreeze leaked from under the rubber pipes until the car was warmed up.
Lada Granta or Lifan Solano Which is better to take a new Granta or a one-year-old Lifan?
The factory oil thickened in severe frosts, so we had to replace the oil with one more suitable for the cold. Also, the rubber seal on the back door was not put on correctly, but using a screwdriver this problem was solved in a few minutes. I tightened one or two more screws - and that was the end of the problems.
Now let's talk about driving performance. In Solano, at first I didn’t like how the engine picked up speed. A few weeks ago, I was overtaking well in 3rd gear and, as soon as the tachometer needle exceeded 3000 rpm, the car began to quickly pick up speed under 100 km, after which the car began to yaw. In order not to lose control of the car, I had to let off the gas. In general, I am very pleased with my purchase and am even glad that I did not buy Renault Logan. In my opinion, Renault Logan has a somewhat old-fashioned design and I don’t really like that about it. In general, we can say that if you want to buy a car that looks solid, then don’t be afraid of minor repairs and buy Lifan Solano. I bought it and have no regrets.
Lada Granta or Lifan?
and here it is a year later! I bought Lifan, no complaints yet... I don’t praise it, but for 600 it would be better than the praised news. Russia can make tanks well, the best planes, but not cars... I’m convinced again and again from other people’s experience.
Gary Murov:
1001% custom roller
Mechanical engineer:
the news is definitely much better
Yarislav Solnechny:
not an objective judgement. I have an 11 year old Solano taxi with a mileage of 300 thousand. It doesn’t ask for much money. and Vesta can boast. Immediately the engine is original and the box is original. The paint is original, no bugs or rust. All electronics work. Naturally I changed the consumables. According to the news, 50 thousand, a taxi friend went through half of the car and put it up for sale. along the way, Vesta gives way to login. salanocanfortier than Logan. I don’t know how new it is.
Nicotine Cigarettes:
I forgot to add Solano 2 already with a CVT and this is a bid for victory in its price segment.
Nicotine Cigarettes:
In 1818, Solano 2 was already supplied with a 1.8 engine and 133 hp.
Mikhail Poldin:
It’s better to buy news than Chinese crap!
Marcel ufa:
PR news, Solano 2 is actually better
Klim Chugunkin:
What creaks.
Robert Gilmanov:
you needed to ride in the back seat of a Vesta. I drove from Yekaterinburg to Chelyabinsk in the back row of a Vesta. THIS IS A CUNT * after an hour of driving, my back was already numb. The suspension hits very hard on bumps and holes. The Vesta car is definitely not for rear passengers
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Comparison of basic configurations
Function | Lada Xray_cross (1.8 MT Classic) | Lifan X70 (2.0 MT Basic) |
Power steering (steering) | No | ✔ |
Rear parking sensors | No | No |
Hill Start Assist Control (HAC) | ✔ | ✔ |
Electronic Brake Force Distribution (EBD) | ✔ | ✔ |
Stability Control (ESP) | ✔ | ✔ |
Steering column, adjustable | ✔ | ✔ |
EUR (steering) | ✔ | No |
Anti-lock system (ABS) | ✔ | ✔ |
Front-camera | No | No |
Heated side mirrors | No | No |
central locking | ✔ | ✔ |
LED daytime running lights | ✔ | No |
Heated 2nd row seats | No | No |
Cruise control | No | No |
Traction Control | ✔ | No |
Climate control (climate control) | No | No |
Heated 1st row of seats, electric | No | No |
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Of these, only Logan is worth anything. And then, it’s better not the local Avtoframos assembly, but the Dachievskaya one. Granta and On-Do are copies of Logan, with minimal changes. Yes, the stuffing there is generally richer, but the quality of parts and assembly is worse.
Which is better - Lada Granta or Lifan Solano? It's up to you, but we want to help you make the right choice. Using our car comparison functionality, you can easily understand which parameters of the cars being compared are different. Choose wisely!
Other options
An excellent alternative to those who for some reason were not impressed by either the Chinese or the Russian will be the French Renault Duster. It costs about the same as the Lada Largus, but is also sold in an all-wheel drive version. It also has a choice of transmissions. This machine has an interesting design and many useful functions. Almost a real SUV, especially when equipped with all-wheel drive. Renault is trouble-free and reliable.
Appearance of opponents
Both cars come with certain exterior features. The Russian specimen stands out for its sportiness and aggression, while the “Chinese” has masculinity and balance.
- The Chinese model now looks much more attractive, more courageous and more original than the previous modification, while retaining the same features. The designers added dimensions to the body. The front part of the Lifan Solano 2 includes a fairly voluminous radiator grille, proportionally built into the aesthetic front end. The headlights are located at a slight angle, which gives the appearance some seriousness. The profile benefits from well-mounted, attractive lights wrapping around the large bumper and trunk.
- Lada Vesta is distinguished by a modern “X-style” running along the entire dynamic body. The stampings fit together perfectly and form sharp corners, creating the impression of a stretched letter “X”. The body is memorable for its proud relief. The trunk has a rounded shape, and therefore the rear is rationally combined with the front of the vehicle. The front end is distinguished by graceful optics and a radiator with non-trivial outlines. Aggression and modernity are the impressions generated by the exterior of the new product.
The appearance of
Lada Vesta cars has a sufficient advantage in the choice of available colors for the body. There are 12 varieties of shades, and there are also additions in the form of a metallic effect. Opponents in the person of Lifan Solano 2 cannot please us with such a list.
What's inside the cabin
The comparison of Lada Vesta and Lifan Solano 2 should be continued with the characteristics of the interior. Due to the fact that the former has a longer wheelbase than its competitor, it wins in terms of space and comfort. The interior of the new product from AvtoVAZ provides great freedom of movement for the driver and passengers.
The second competitor is clearly inferior in these parameters. The rear seats of the car are quite cramped. The big disadvantage of Lifan Solano 2 is the problem with the constant smell of plastic. The quality of the materials of the Chinese model itself is far from the highest level. The positive aspects include a newfangled multifunction steering wheel, a rational and simple dashboard. Lifan Solano 2 amazes with the capacity of its luggage compartment: you can put up to 650 liters of cargo there.
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Salon and trunk
The interior of both cars is quite modern and stylish. Its design uses high-quality plastic, fabric or leather (depending on the configuration).
The X70's interior is elegant and simple. The salon is quite spacious. The car has enough space for even two adult passengers in the back. The instrument panel has a blue backlight that is quite bright but comfortable for the eyes. The main control buttons are located under the multimedia system. They are located quite conveniently for the driver. There are also keys for controlling various functions on the steering wheel. The steering wheel is medium-sized, comfortable and turns quite easily.
Its opponent also has a fairly roomy interior, but there is not enough space for rear passengers in the Lada. The interior is made in two colors and seems bright and positive. You can also find X-design elements in the decoration. Unlike the Chinese, the dashboard of this car is illuminated with a bright light, which is also not irritating and comfortable for the eyes. Buttons and function control keys are located under the multimedia system. Finding what you need is very convenient and easy. There are also buttons on the steering wheel - very comfortable, very light and medium in size.
The sound insulation of both cars is quite good for a budget class. But music lovers may find it insufficient and require improvements. The same applies to the multimedia system. In addition, in the initial versions of the Chinese it is monochrome and not rich in functionality. Lada X Ray Cross has a fairly convenient multimedia system with fairly good sound.
The seats of the Chinese crossover can be trimmed with either fabric or leather, depending on the configuration. According to experts and car owners, they are not very convenient for traveling long distances. You get tired quickly in a car. In addition, there are not enough seat settings. But perhaps this opinion is subjective. The rival seats have high-quality back support and have a sufficient number of adjustments, as well as very good heating.
The trunk of the Lifan is quite roomy. Its volume is 419 liters, and if you remove the rear seat, there will be a noticeable increase in space in the luggage compartment. This trunk is quite enough for trips to the country or travel. And the opponent does not have a spacious compartment. The trunk volume is modest - only 361 liters. Folding the rear seat will increase the space a little. But this will still not be enough to transport large cargo. Therefore, the car is not suitable for travelers, summer residents or families with children.
Whose engine is better: Lada Vesta or Lifan Solano 2
Under the hood of the Lifan Solano there is a 4-cylinder petrol engine with a volume of 1.5 liters and a power of 100 horsepower. Torque at the maximum point is 129 Nm. The engine is paired with a five-speed manual transmission. The maximum speed that a Chinese car can reach is 180 km/h. A test drive conducted by the manufacturers showed that fuel consumption in urban conditions is 7.8 liters.
The domestic development boasts the presence of three copies of engines. An ordinary sedan is equipped with a 1.6/106 internal combustion engine. The car accelerates to one hundred in 11.8 seconds, and the maximum available speed is determined by the figure 178 km/h. Together with the internal combustion engine, two types of gearbox work: a domestic robot and a mechanic created by French engineers. In addition, AvtoVAZ designers promise to install a CVT in future models. Both competitors are front-wheel drive and have 92 octane fuel to fill the tank.
Handling and cross-country ability on Russian roads
Roadability It is necessary to compare the Lada Vesta and Lifan Solano 2 in this aspect, since the ability to cope with domestic road realities is valued no less than a reliable and powerful engine.
- The body of the Chinese sedan is treated with an anti-corrosion coating, additionally protecting the crankcase, and increasing the volume of windshield washer reservoirs. Lifan Solano 2 is equipped with rear disc brakes.
- Lada Vesta was created with a big focus on domestic roads. The quality of its assembly materials is high. High ground clearance allows you to maneuver more aggressively and pass difficult places in the city or on the highway.
Comparison of technical characteristics
The cars have slight differences in size. Its length/width/height is 4390/1820/1715 mm, and the Russian crossover Lada XRay Cross is 4171/1810/1645 mm. Therefore, the second car is shorter, narrower and lower than the first model. At the same time, the Russian differs most from the Chinese in length. The ground clearance of Lifan is 195 mm, and that of its rival is 210 mm. The AvtoVAZ product should be more passable and suitable for off-road driving. In this it wins over the Chinese manufacturer.
Both cars, even in minimal versions, are well equipped. They use the most advanced options. But the Lada is equipped somewhat better than its rival, since it has LED daytime running lights, braking assistance systems, directional stability systems, a hill climb assistant and some others. All devices have been used on other modern cars of the domestic concern, for example, on the Lada Vesta sedan, and have proven themselves to be excellent. The Chinese equipment is based on the experience of global manufacturers and tested on other models of the brand. It is also quite stable. True, in both cases there are exceptions. But the failure of these systems is more likely a matter of chance or negligence of the car owner.
How much will competing models cost?
What to choose and buy for future owners is up to them to decide for themselves. The price of Lada Vesta varies from 514 thousand rubles to 680,000 for the best configuration. Lifan Solano 2 appeared on the market in 2016. The cheapest version will cost about 500,000 rubles.
It is noted that production of the first Solano model is gradually being phased out, and factories are switching to the second version of the Chinese car. Sales of this car increased significantly in the first eight months. This indicates sufficient popularity among compatriots.
Comparison of configurations and prices
Lifan Myway is sold on the Russian market in three trim levels. They differ in the type of transmission and set of options. Even in the minimal version the car is well equipped. Moreover, in this version it costs about 870,000 rubles. The second car is available in two versions, with slightly different equipment and number of seats. The cheapest equipment of the Russian costs at least 750,000 rubles, which is somewhat cheaper than the Chinese. At the same time, the second car is almost as functional as the first.
Or a Chinese type Lifan Solano
Lada Granta liftback, Priora. or Chinese like lifan solano, cherry? What do the pelvic guides say?))
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Alexander, what is free?) Give reasons
Anton, the Priora is nothing like that... but the liftback is also a beautiful body
Alexander, Lifan Solano, for example, the gearbox is better, there is a Toyota licensed engine + 1.8, a 2000 Toyota Corolla platform, front and rear disc brakes.
Alexander, cherry m11 126 horses for example.... I’m thinking about what to take, the Chinese are not bad either.
Take a grant anyway. There are spare parts in any bakery. But what the hell can you find for the Chinese?
Alexander, well, damn it, just write something that’s crap without arguing it, the peak of cretinism... I know a lot of people who take some thing and it becomes an automatic machine better than anything else! I really came here to ask for advice, or are there just idle talkers here... like bullshit, get out of here, etc.! At least one of you will be able to answer for your words, that is, give reasons... I’m not from the Chinese group, I’ll just take the car tomorrow, but I can’t decide! No need for empty comments, let's get to the facts)))
Alexander, I like Priora too!! What's the problem with spare parts for narrow-eyed ones?
Alexander, I just need an objective opinion, I also stopped by to visit the Chinese)))
Alexander, although I am a member of the xbox van group, I will never say that it is better than ps4...do you get the point?)
It’s a fact about spare parts, they’re difficult to find. You have to order and wait for months. Plus, specialists won’t do everything; of course, anyone can do a small thing. About the Solanda, I can say that the interior and body are smaller than those of the elevator, similar. Lifans have been falling apart forever. Personally, my car mechanics told me: well done for taking the grant, although I was going for the Lifan. They themselves switched from the Germans to the Russian car industry - consumables are cheaper and easier to find.
A friend has a Lifan. He's been waiting for parts from China for a month.
Don’t listen to anyone, take China at maximum speed, you don’t have enough money, get on credit. You will drive a normal foreign car. and not like a horse on the basins!
Alexander, what brand exactly?
I also like the name grantovod or grantasaurus. With a bra, the name is not relevant, but in my opinion Cherry is generally a women's car. I also forgot to say that in the near future there will be a problem in general with the Chinese and Koreans, as there will be interruptions in supplies and a possible suspension of supplies to us in Russia in general.. take Chery and Lifan and then wait for spare parts for years... my advice is the Russian auto industry... But look at Priora or Grant Why do you need a car: if it’s a family car and for trips out of town with villages, then it’s undoubtedly a grant. And if it’s purely on the easy side, then I’ll prioritize
Azamat, yes xs, cherry m11, lifan solano, cherry bonus 3
Irina, Thank you for your objectivity! Priora will most likely be my choice if not Chinese!)
Priora is not worth the money! Chinese, you can get stuck for spare parts, wait for a grant, price, quality, make a conclusion yourself)))
Alexander, either a grant or a prior (there is no other option!)
Dmitry, thank you, I laughed) Joke of the year, joker) You yourself drive a viburnum pad like a LOSHARA, as described above
Alexey, Damn life is pain))
Alexander, are they assembled in China?
Azamat, I don’t know, my cousin works there, I’ll call to find out... but it seems to me that the Russian assembly is all narrow-eyed))
Alexander, dear Priora! Although the same spare parts!
Alexander, ahahah...he has a viburnum in his photo
Alexey, they have everything the same, engine, suspension, gearbox, etc. on the same base, am I right?
Polo, Solaris, Rio - choose one of these is better
Alexander, Well, you can say so (there are both Priorov and non-Prior engines)
You guessed it, I'm a factory
Dmitry, I'm glad for you
Alexander, the Solano is of course a normal device, especially since they put 1.8 on it right now. But the ass with spare parts, especially for the body if
It’s hard to get spare parts for China. But when you come to the market for spare parts, they’re all made in China.
Russia is the best country, I love you.
Alexander, I worked in the Lifan salon, the Salano is such a barn, in principle all Lifans are a barn... I traveled with clients on all models, the Solano has a terrible clutch, a very tight box, well, in my opinion, it’s like wood.
All the same, ours are ours, no matter how you look at them... and the possibilities for tuning and spare parts, and even in the service they know like 5 fingers... well, they are stronger than the Chinese ones (plastic) I took the elevator as a grant, I like it. There’s nothing more to add. ps it’s a matter of taste, that’s all)))
Then you’ll sell the Chinese horseradish... there’s even a joke that they are eternal (Forever with you) you lose a lot on the secondary market, but cans are always in demand - therefore a more profitable investment
Thank you all Guys for your objective comments, I’ll probably join you soon!
What planet are you from? In any more or less decent city, there are plenty of spare parts for the Chinese, for every taste and budget. Go for a test drive, whatever you like best, take it. Don't worry about spare parts at all.
Alexander, I don’t know how Priors do things now, but I’ve been driving a new one since 2008 and there haven’t been any problems, the gearbox was rocker-type and withstood all the rides with slipping, the rebound struts didn’t knock (like in my current elevator), the trunk could be opened with the key.. in general, it seems to me more finished or something .. but the elevator has other advantages - a more comfortable interior and a higher seating position, air ducts to the rear passenger’s feet .. so it’s up to you to choose (I recommend a 106-horsepower engine and not 98, if you’re looking at 16kW)
Lev, thank you! Yes, I’m looking at the maximum speed or the previous one.
Ilnur, without a test drive and the choice is not a choice) of course... Thank you!
Granta pisses me off. The bitch is still rattling, blowing from everywhere. The same eight from 1980. Nothing has changed. Today I’m driving and I feel that the cold is coming from somewhere, it turned out that there is a blow from the steering column, something needs to be done about it. Yesterday the brake fluid went away, I topped it up, but it’s also bad where it’s leaking. Do the same. Fuck that car. I’ll change it by spring, honestly it’s already fucked up
Ilnur, you have to love the car
then she will love you too))) and you just have sex))))
Leo, I need a car in order to drive, and not in order to love, much less fuck with it.
Ilnur, well, you’re fucking, you yourself wrote one thing or another..
Leo, that’s why I say that such a machine is fucking unnecessary. In the spring, as soon as sales go up, I’ll put them up immediately. It's no longer the season.
Ilnur, you’re just unlucky..(VAZ is a roulette))
Leo, it’s unlucky if it’s one case out of 10. And none of my friends can say that they’re happy with the vase. One on a grant had the box sorted out twice, the second on a Prior also had a crunchy box. At work, we also visited a Prior with a grenade to repair a box. Really fucking cars. I'm surprised that nothing happened to my box (howling doesn't count)
Ilnur, On the contrary, several of my friends already have grants - some have new ones, some are happy with them... I trusted the vase myself since there were no problems with the previous Priora... friends still have four... no one complained
Friends, for me personally, a normal foreign car starts from 1,500,000 rubles. All Solaris, Fiats, Rapids, assholes and steel vaginas... this is so - to stroke your pride (I’m not talking about the ketai). Knowing about all the problems of the VAZ, due to the lack of funds for a NORMAL foreign car (credit is not considered), I buy a new basin every 3 years (mileage 150,000 km), at maximum speed. I don't care about the warranty, chips, warm-ups and service problems. Anything that breaks, I can change for cash, no problem for my pocket, at any service center. The servicing of the basin is pennies and, most importantly, fast. The quality of all VAZ models is the same. There have been no problems with the chassis for a long time, the engines run, the stoves heat up, what else is needed. Oh yes, you need to decide whether you are taking the car for yourself or for others, and understand for what purposes. In the price category 450tr. VAZ is perfect. Peace and good luck to everyone on the roads!
Alexander, God bless you from Lifan and Chery. A friend of mine works at a factory where they collect lifans.
I can't tell you without tears. And the cherry itself is shit!
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- From: Makhachkala
- Lada Vesta Sedan
June 2, 2022, 10:44 pm #77 123
Shursky, June 2, 2022, 10:40 pm
Sorry, second part of the answer.
I also drove Kalina. Not much either. It's also cramped. And according to the reviews of the “long-ranger”, I haven’t read a single one without flaws. Anticipating the angry attacks of “Kalinovodov” - comrades, Facts are a stubborn thing. Prove otherwise. You're giving a car rally across Europe.
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- From: Rostov-on-Don
- Great Wall Hover H5 Luxe
June 2, 2022, 11:57 pm #78 123
“I’ll write, of course, there were certainly some breakdowns!”
Well guys!, Okay! A piece of hardware is a piece of hardware, depending on your luck, how you use it, etc. Well, Dervaiz’s Khaima did NOT break. And it doesn’t seem like he’s going to. It’s clear, the mileage is funny - about 10,000, everything is clear. But what about comfort - distances of 500 km or more without discomfort for the driver.
It is incorrect to compare Haima and Priora - I found out that the categories are different... both in terms of money and in everything else, including constructively. Like a screwdriver with a screwdriver. In short, time will tell. In a week - to the sea. with the FULLEST load. It will be interesting - forum thread - “Haima-3 is already on sale.”
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- From: Vologda
- Volkswagen Golf Plus 1.6
June 3, 2022, 00:04 #79 123
witos309, 2 June 2022, 21:54
I bought a smiley 2 weeks ago, the mileage is 1500, so far everything is fine. The normally turned on air conditioner accelerates and does not affect traction. The truth is there is no noise reduction at all. The interior is surprisingly spacious and the trunk is also normal. soft clutch, very sensitive gas pedal. the racks work great. I bought it in Pyatigorsk for 295,000 plus 1,200 rugs. I'll go to that soon1
It would be interesting to read the review
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- From: Kaluga
- Daewoo Nexia N 150 Vyatka V 150
9 June 2022, 18:25 #80 123 1
What makes you think that Breeze is not being released? They also produce restyled sedan and hatch. It is not correct to compare them with Kalina; the comparison is not in Kalina’s favor. And I drove the 320, I didn’t like it, it wobbles and the pedals vibrate, it certainly looks more stylish than the Kalina, but in this case, in my opinion, the Kalina is preferable.
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- From: Kursk
9 June 2022, 19:15 #81 123
flowerss, 9 June 2022, 18:25
What makes you think that Breeze is not being released? They also produce restyled sedan and hatch. It is not correct to compare them with Kalina; the comparison is not in Kalina’s favor. And I drove the 320, I didn’t like it, it wobbles and the pedals vibrate, it certainly looks more stylish than the Kalina, but in this case, in my opinion, the Kalina is preferable.
New Lada: Are Solaris wheels suitable for Largus?
and in what way does viburnum lose to the breeze?
- Posts: 512
- From: Ufa
9 June 2022, 19:56 #82 123 2
I chose viburnum!! the breeze is narrower than the viburnum and is no longer produced, and the smile is like a toy and costs from 312 thousand and is deterred by the service of the Chinese and the shortage of spare parts and then sale (no one in their right mind would buy a used Chinese one)
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- From: Ufa
9 June 2022, 19:59 #83 123 2
in my opinion, the viburnum even outperforms the other type of accent and the Logan, in any case, the Logan now seems like a dump to me, and the accent is squalid, although I considered them as a purchase
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- From: Nizhny Novgorod
- Chery Kimo
9 June 2022, 20:13 #84 123 2
blazer2009, 9 June 2022, 19:56
the breeze is closer than viburnum
and is no longer in production,
and the smile is like a toy
and costs from 312 thousand:
smile_2: and the service from the Chinese and the shortage of spare parts and then the sale are deterring
(no one in their right mind would buy a used Chinese one)
1. How is this so tighter? don't believe your eyes?
3. tell this to the owners of real Mini Coopers
5. if you’re afraid, don’t take it, just don’t spill your fears all over the forum
6. throw out all your household appliances or go to a psychiatrist - you’ve been out of your mind for 5 years now.
blazer2009, 9 June 2022, 19:59
in my opinion, the viburnum even outperforms the other type of accent and the Logan, in any case, the Logan now seems like a dump to me, and the accent is squalid, although I considered them as a purchase
Unfortunately, he doesn’t win, but the main thing is that the owner of his car likes it.
Which is better: “Chinese” or VAZ (Vesta vs Emgrand 7 and Solano and Xray vs X50 and Tiggo 2)
Since the first Chinese appeared in the form of Chery Amulet at the beginning of the 2000s, future car owners who were looking at new cars faced a dilemma - which is better to buy: a VAZ or a Chinese car?
And many drivers are still looking for the answer to this question. The difficulty is that those who drive VAZs say that a VAZ is better than a Chinese one. Although it’s not the best car on the planet, it’s at least domestic. And those who drive Chinese cars say that China has stepped far forward and in a good way it should be compared not with VAZ, but with Koreans. Of course, since there are more “basins” in the country, the majority votes for the VAZ, but let’s try to be objective.