Central body electronics unit (CBEC) 8450100527, Lada Granta “Lux”.
Description:
TsBKE is used on luxury vehicles, in which instead of traditional relays, a central body electrical unit (CBE) is used to control electronics; the signal in such cars is transmitted via a can-bus.
Applicability:
- VAZ 2190, 2191 Lada Granta in the “LUX” configuration.
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Classification of CBKE
Types of CBKE, features and their interchangeability
:
- 21900-3840080-20 Priora 2, Granta, Kalina 2 (in luxury trim levels), Datsun Ondo (Dream 1-2)
- 21900-3840080-10 Priora 2, Granta, Kalina 2 (in standard configurations)
- 21900-3840080-11 Priora 2 in the Standard configuration. Until 2016, Priora 2 was installed in the standard configuration
- 21900-3840080-21 Priora 2 in the Lux configuration early (2014-2015), not installed on the Norma, but will fit
- 21900-3840080-15 Priora 2 in Standard configuration, Kalina 2, Granta in Comfort configuration
- 21900-3840080-30 Datsun Mido in the Trust 1-3 configuration until 2015
- 21900-3840080-40 Datsun Mido in Dream 1, Dream 2 trim levels until 2015
- 21900-3840080-50 new block to replace 21900-3840080-10 (does not burn out)
- 21900-3840080-60 new block to replace 21900-3840080-20 (does not burn out)
- 8450100527 Grant from 2022
- 8450100534 Kalina 2 from 2022
- 8450100535 Datsun Ondo from 2022
- 8450100536 Datsun Mido from 2022 (Trust 1-3, Dream 1-2)
- 8450101126 Granta FL in the Classic, Optima and Comfort trim levels exclusively in cars with AMT (to implement the creeping AMT 2.0 mode, a door open signal is needed in the CAN bus, so it was necessary to introduce TsBKE)
- 8450101145 Granta FL in Luxe package
Buy
The TsBKE block is available in our online store (ask about availability in the comments).
Solution
If such a problem happens to you, it is recommended to contact the Lada dealership. In this case, you should not count on warranty service, since in this case there is no fault of the plant.
The thing is that the resistance of the diodes is greater than that of standard lamps, which is why the electronics unit burns out. In this case, there is a reckless decision by AvtoVAZ designers, who abandoned fuses and installed an electronic unit from the Renault Trafic model in Vesta.
Vesta’s design uses this electronics unit.
To restore the operation of the electrics, it is necessary to replace the additional body electronics unit of the Lada Vesta.
Purpose and characteristics of TsBKE
The central unit of body electronics Kalina 2 controls:
- alarm system;
- windshield wipers;
- heated windshield and rear windows;
- heated side mirrors;
- lighting system;
- direction indicators;
- central locking;
- trunk opening drive;
- electric windows;
- heated front seats;
- electric side mirrors.
When the alarm is turned on, an automatic check occurs, accompanied by a short flashing of the direction indicators. In security mode, the immobilizer light on the instrument cluster blinks. The security mode is disarmed by pressing the remote control button.
The central electronic unit automatically turns on the windshield wipers if:
- a signal was received from the rain sensor;
- sensitivity regulator in position from 1 to 4;
- The wiper switch is in the intermittent position.
If a malfunction is detected in the operation of the windshield wiper, TsBKE Kalina 2 switches it from automatic to manual control mode. When the windshield heating function is turned on, the body electronics monitor the on-board voltage and limit the heating duration to 6 minutes. When the voltage drops below 12 V, the CBKE switches off the heating mode.
When the voltage drops to 9.6 V, the central unit limits the operation of the rear window and side mirror heaters. This prevents the engine from going into emergency mode. When the voltage is restored to a level of 10.8 Volts, the heaters turn on automatically.
The driver is also assisted by body electronics when working with the lighting system. When the engine starts, the daytime running lights turn on, and when the engine stops, they turn off automatically. The low beam headlights and side lights turn on when a signal is received from the light and rain sensor. At the same time, the daytime running lights turn off. If during automatic diagnostics a malfunction is detected, the absence of a signal from the light sensor, then the TsBKE turns on the low beam and dimensions.
Video “Independent repair of the control module”
How to properly dismantle the CBKE and how to subsequently repair it - detailed instructions describing all the nuances are presented in the video below (author - MultiAlexander9).
The electrical package control unit (pictured below) Kalina Lux does not work. Or rather, it does not respond to my presses. It is illuminated, when I press the buttons, click, I hear a single short sound in the area of the speedometer/heater (you can hear it in the video below). This thing appeared in the morning, I walked away for an hour, everything worked. By evening everything stopped responding again and it’s been like this for the whole day. Neither the central locking, nor the mirrors, nor the power windows respond to my presses.. What's the matter? I disconnected the terminal for 15 minutes, it didn’t help, the alarm was starline.
Alarm and central locking in Lada Kalina
When installing an alarm system, they most often make mistakes with connecting the central locking system. Standard central locking is now installed on many cars, and the Lada Kalina of generation “1” was no exception. But the fact is that in the “Norma” configuration one scheme for connecting locks is used, and in the “Lux” this scheme is different. And the connection of the signaling, of course, is also done differently. Let's consider how alarm and alarm systems can be combined if we are talking about any of the specified configurations.
Two configurations and two schemes
In the “Norma” version, if it has a central locking system, you can use two control wires. Ground is supplied to one of them if the locks need to be opened, and to the second one if the locks need to be closed. The period of connection to ground should take 0.7 seconds, and most alarms have such a setting.
Control cables, threshold harness
If we talk about the “Lux” configuration, the control wires will not help us here. The relay contacts built into the alarm will have to be connected to the breaks in the power cords. Despite all the complexity, there were no complaints about this scheme, and we will consider it right now.
The “luxury” option is the most complex
First you need to make sure that the central locking system in the car is really connected according to the “Lux” scheme. The control button located on the door must be trigger (non-latching). If you have exactly this type of car, you will have to tinker. It will be necessary to extend 4 power cables to the signaling unit. These cords, in turn, must go from the break point of the two standard wires (yellow-white and yellow-black). Find them in the bundle under the threshold.
Car alarm connection points for Lada Priora
Block to the right of the brake pedal: hood switch (-) - white/black in the middle connector ignition (+) - orange in the middle connector trunk opening (-) - blue/red in the small connector door switch (-) - white/black in the small connector trunk limit switch (-) - yellow/red in the small connector
original siren - gray/black on the fuse box
To control the central locking , cut the brown wire in the driver's door and connect it according to the diagram:
Description of CBKE
Unlike the first Kalin models, the second versions and Luxury equipment use an electrical package control unit instead of traditional relays to control the electronics. This device combines many functions, we suggest you familiarize yourself with them in more detail.
Connection diagram of elements and outputs of the CBEK
Functions
The electrical package control unit is designed to perform the following functions:
- Alarm. If the car's anti-theft system detects a break-in attempt, thanks to the CBKE, it will transmit information about this to the car owner's control panel.
- Windshield wiper system control. Moreover, we are talking about both manual and automatic control (if the car is equipped with an electrical package control unit marked 21900-3840080-20).
- The device performs the function of controlling the windshield and rear window heating systems. This unit also controls the heating elements of the side rear-view mirrors.
- The electrical control unit also monitors the performance of the optics, both in manual and automatic control modes. In particular, we are talking about low-beam headlamps, side lights, and DRLs.
- Separately, we should highlight the function of ensuring the functionality of the high-range lighting.
- Turning lights, as well as light signaling.
- Vehicle interior lighting.
- The device monitors the performance and energy saving of devices belonging to the category of internal lighting of the car.
- Monitoring the state of the central lock, as well as performing the functions of locking and unlocking the locks themselves from the key, from buttons installed in the car interior, as well as in the doors.
- Another option is to open the luggage compartment lid using a button installed in the cabin.
- An equally important function is the control of electric drives, in particular, we are talking about power windows, as well as side rear-view mirrors.
- Heating system for driver and passenger seats.
- Luggage compartment lighting unit (video author - Vladimir Kostyuchenkov).
Typical faults
If the electrical package control unit fails for some reason, this can lead to the following problems:
- Failure to operate power windows. Of course, before disassembling the control module, you should make sure that the window regulators do not work precisely because of it. It would be logical to first check the safety element, as well as the lift control unit, which is built into the driver's door. In practice, it often happens that the cause of power window failure is poor wiring contact on the unit itself.
- The optics stopped working - low beam, turn signals, etc. In this case, the safety elements, light sources and steering switch are first checked. There is a possibility that the reason lies in a broken contact directly on the switch; if this is the case, then they should be re-soldered. If the reason is that the unit is not working, it will need to be dismantled and disassembled in order to find the burnt-out element and re-solder it. If soldering does not help solve the problem, the device will have to be replaced.
- Some of the equipment has stopped working, while the devices, as at first glance may seem, are in no way connected with each other. The fact is that the module itself includes many elements and controllers, each of them is responsible for performing certain functions. If two or more controllers fail at once, it can cause serious damage. For example, the optics, heated rear and front windows, the trunk door and the window regulator will immediately refuse to work. It is necessary to locate the failed controller and replace it by re-soldering.
- A fairly common problem that can occur is a break in the wiring of the unit. It is installed in a virtually inaccessible place, but if electrical work is being done, for example, installing an anti-theft system, then most likely the car owner will encounter a TsBKE. And if the wiring is damaged during the work, of course, this will affect the functioning of the device and, accordingly, the performance of certain functions.
- Oxidation of contacts on module connectors. If you encounter such a problem, we recommend paying attention to the humidity in the cabin. Often, oxidation at the outlets occurs precisely as a result of high humidity. The contacts can be cleaned, this is not a problem, but the problem of humidity must be addressed, since otherwise it can lead to failure of the microcircuit as a whole.
- Board failure. The most terrible problem for the car owner, because because of this the device simply will not be able to work normally. Accordingly, it will need to be replaced, and this, in turn, costs a lot of money (author - Alexander Fisher).
Replacement features
Briefly about the procedure for replacing the control module on Kalina 2:
- First, the instruments are dismantled from the center console; there is nothing difficult about it.
- Then the lower part of the center console trim is unscrewed, the trim is removed, and you gain access to the fuse and relay box.
- The mounting block with safety devices can be unscrewed, but it cannot be removed because it is connected by wires. You can rotate it a little so that it takes a horizontal position.
- You can stick your hand into the gap formed as a result of turning. Having done this, you will be able to feel the shelf on which the TsBKE is installed. A little to the left there is a bolt with which this module is fixed - you need to unscrew it.
- After this, through the top, through the instrument panel, you will need to disconnect the two connected connectors. After completing these steps, you can carefully dismantle the CBKE and remove it by slightly moving the fuse box. Please note that you should not pull the device too hard, since there are two more connectors on the other side that will need to be disconnected. When the wires are disconnected, the CBKE can be completely dismantled and repaired or replaced.
Photo gallery “Assistance in replacing CBKE”
1. Remove the decorative trim of the fuse box after dismantling the devices.
2. Unscrew this block and turn it a little - this way you can access the CBKE.
3. Schematic designation of the shelf behind the torpedo on which the control module is installed.
Price issue
The cost of CBKE will vary depending on the modification. On average, such devices cost from 4,500 to 6,000 rubles.
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Personalize existing features
The manufacturer has provided for the timing of regular technical inspections, which are mandatory. For non-compliance, the company reserves the opportunity to deprive the car owner of the right to free service.
The most vulnerable is the comfort block, which includes many logical circuits. Its purpose boils down to the following functions:
- activation of interior lighting;
- adjusting the operation of car alarms;
- turning on the heated rear window;
- automatic mirror adjustment;
- control of electric windows;
- remote control of locks.
The manufacturer has provided the ability to personalize each element. To do this, the electrical package control unit must be recoded at an authorized automotive center. Using official software, the wizard will add or remove certain features. If everything is done correctly, 20 minutes after requesting the appropriate service, you can safely use the “iron horse”.
According to reviews from car enthusiasts, the Lada Kalina car is distinguished by electronic filling with increased sensitivity to operating conditions. Aggressive driving style and minor damage lead to malfunctions.
As a result, you need to visit a service station to replace the device. To do this, remove the control unit, which must be done as follows:
- turn off the battery;
- unscrew the screws from the driver's seat;
- Use a ratchet wrench to remove the nut;
- the plastic plug is squeezed out completely;
- carefully pull out the seat;
- remove the seat by dismantling the terminals;
- remove the cover plate.
The replacement procedure on the Kalina 2 model is completed by folding the carpet and installing a new block. After this, all procedures are carried out in reverse order.
Non-specific types of services
Even if the rules for safe operation of the vehicle are observed, the heater control unit may require servicing or replacement. This happens as a result of sudden switching of the heating knob of the Lada Kalina car. The operating instructions indicate that you must wait until the system warms up to a minimum, otherwise expensive repairs will be required.
From a financial point of view, the stove control unit will not be cheap, so its careful operation will save the family budget.
The heater control unit cannot be replaced independently due to the need to use special equipment. Much less often problems arise at the level of the engine control system.
The need to visit a service station will be caused by driving on a gravel road, an accident, or the result of unprofessional maintenance. The engine management system is responsible for fuel injection, so any deviations in its operation immediately put the car on hold. How long it will take to replace the engine control unit will be decided by the technician after an inspection.
It is cheaper, but repairs take much longer when the body electronics unit comes under attack. The problem can only be diagnosed in a service center. The duration is due to the fact that if the engine control unit can be replaced as a single whole, then part of the wiring must be changed along with the electronics.
Voltage surges or a simple short circuit can damage a certain sector. The light control unit will be the first to tell you about this.
Incorrectly working turn signals or emergency lights are the first sign indicating a failure in the electronic component of the car. There is no point in delaying a visit to the service center. Otherwise, the ESP unit responsible for dynamic stabilization will come under attack. Even with minor problems, the driver will notice a decrease in the lateral dynamics of the vehicle.
Lada Kalina requires regular maintenance as prescribed by the manufacturer. If the specified deadlines are met, each element of the system will work properly.
Possible breakdowns of body electronics and their elimination
CBKE allows you to free the driver from routine work and focus his attention on driving and managing the traffic situation. Despite this undeniable advantage, persistent failures of some nodes often occur. One of the most common malfunctions is the failure of turn signals and hazard warning lights. This most often manifests itself in the fact that the lamps simply burn continuously on the left side of the car. Before you begin repairing the TsBKE, you need to make sure that the lights are not burnt out, their contacts are not oxidized, the emergency stop button is working, and the wires are not charred.
The reason for the failure of the power windows may be a breakdown of the electronic control unit. There are other options: problems with the window regulator built into the driver's door, poor wire contact, incorrect installation of limiters.
You can repair the electronic unit yourself. To do this, you need to remove it from its regular place, open the cover and carefully inspect the circuit for the presence of soot or melted parts of the controllers. If you find obvious defects in the controllers, you should replace them and reinstall the software through a special connector on the electronic unit. In order to correctly replace burnt-out components, you need to have a “pinout” - information about connectors, wiring, input and output ports, various adapters and plugs.