Every car owner, including the owner of a Lada Granta, knows what a door limit switch is, which has its full name as a door limit switch. This is a small device, which in its design is a simple switch.
The door end is located where the car door comes into contact with the body, and the main part of the device (the button) is located on the body, the so-called counter part is located on the door. The main task of this mechanism is to inform some car systems about the opening or closing of the door.
Characteristics of door limit switches Grants
Apart from the driver's side, there are no door limit switches on the Lada Granta in other opening structures. There aren't even any buttons or standard wiring. The operation of these mechanisms determines the activation of the door open lamp, which lights up on the dashboard. Moreover, the interior light and car alarm react to the actions of the driver or passenger. The average cost of limit switches starts from 150 to 200 rubles. Article 1118-3710199 is the original number and its price is lower than its analogues. The Lada Granta has this device, but it all depends on the modification:
- The “Norma” package implies the installation of this device in all door structures.
- The “Standard” package does not imply the presence of limit switches on the seats. There they are replaced with plugs.
- The “Lux” package will delight the buyer with a full set of sensors, even a rear one.
The activation sensor transmits information using light indicators.
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1 Topic by Mutsu 01/26/2015 19:24:28
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Topic: Door end switches, how to connect?
How and where can I purchase the remaining 3 terminals? and how to connect them?
2 Reply from max-xx 01/26/2015 19:27:20
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Re: Door end switches, how to connect?
What if you use the search? They sucked at it, they threw links to existential stories. And so in the store for giguars from Granta. And the answer is there too.
3 Reply from 71rus 01/26/2015 19:28:45
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The question is a little off topic, but I'll ask here. What do you need to add radio control for central locking? Those. So how did it turn out on Dream?
4 Reply from 7TT 26-01-2015 19:30:20 (26-01-2015 19:31:21 edited by 7TT)
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Re: Door end switches, how to connect?
The question is a little off topic, but I'll ask here. What do you need to add radio control for central locking? Those. So how did it turn out on Dream?
The central locking unit with communication with activators via the CAN bus is absolutely crap.
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How and where can I purchase the remaining 3 terminals? and how to connect them?
2 71rus: I think not everything is so simple here, as well as with the comfort unit which is responsible for lighting and purifiers.
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The question is a little off topic, but I'll ask here. What do you need to add radio control for central locking? Those. So how did it turn out on Dream?
The central locking unit with communication with activators via the CAN bus is absolutely crap.
Clear. Thank you. I didn’t think such a thing would happen with the key. You can't open the locks. The main key was already bent while trying to open the car, but it seemed to return to the back as it was. However, only the driver's door and ignition turn normally. Neither the trunk nor the passenger door can be used with the key; the key cannot be inserted all the way.
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Re: Door end switches, how to connect?
Use a syringe to push liquid lubricant into the locks. When I put the key in for the first time, I understood everything. It was the same on Kalina.
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Neither the passenger door can be used with the key; the key cannot be inserted all the way.
You have a lock on your passenger door. All trusts have this.
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Neither the passenger door can be used with the key; the key cannot be inserted all the way.
You have a lock on your passenger door. All trusts have this.
Installation of limit switches on Lada Granta
An activation sensor in all doors will provide additional comfort. To carry out the installation procedure, you will need special equipment and available materials: lubricant, rubber tips, screwdriver, rag.
Step-by-step algorithm of actions:
- Remove the rubber tip.
- Open the housing and remove the limit switch.
- Remove the block with wires and disconnect.
- Install a new sensor.
- Reassemble.
After the basic steps, you need to check the functionality of the device. To connect the limit switch to the power circuit, you will need to connect two terminals: first “+” and then “-”.
If you need to replace the trunk limit switch, then the instructions are identical, you just need to open the trunk lid.
Finalization of the scheme
The installation or modification scheme will require special equipment to test the electrical circuit. The first place on the list of accessories is a tester and a soldering iron. You will also need a screwdriver, additional wires, electrical tape and a new sensor. When connected, the driver can use the button in the threshold or the door lock contacts.
To do this, you first need to open the sensor housing with a screwdriver and remove the element, remove the block with wires using a screwdriver. Then replace the wire and solder. Insulate the ends and assemble the structure in reverse order. The process is carried out in parallel so that the process involves elements that go to the working positions of the door.
To measure the circuit resistance with a tester, you need to alternately press and release the spherical protrusion.
Backlight
Many drivers install additional lighting in addition to the standard one. LED lighting, which is mounted on the bottom of the door, is popular.
For installation you need to prepare:
- LED strip of the required length, price from 500 rubles;
- electrical wires with bare and stripped ends;
- electrical tape;
- soldering iron;
- glue;
- multimeter
- Solder and insulate wires of pre-measured length to the “plus” and “minus” of the LED strip.
- Remove the door trim.
- Using a multimeter, find the positive wire of the cigarette lighter and connect it to the corresponding wire of the LED strip.
- Connect the negative wire of the limit switch to the corresponding wire of the LED strip.
- Check the functionality of the backlight by opening and closing the door.
- Attach the LED strip to the door using glue.
Design solution to the problem
When replacing or connecting, you only need to restore the originally designed circuit. If no modifications are carried out, then the need to disassemble the locking mechanism and use insulating materials is immediately eliminated. Step-by-step instruction:
- Open the hood.
- Loosen the bolt connections and disassemble the device.
- Unscrew the terminals.
- Connect the wires from the battery.
- Pull the limit switch out of the hole.
- Pull out the switch.
- Stretch the wires and connect them.
- Bring the ends out through the hole.
It is important that the wires are no shorter than ten centimeters.
After this, you should check the functionality of the device, and then carry out final assembly.
Troubleshooting
Drivers may encounter various types of malfunctions. Even though the sensor is protected, it is not as reliable as the manufacturers claim. In addition to silicone lubricant, other measures can be used:
- Install the spring under the rubber cover. If this element is elastic, it will protect the mechanism even at very low temperatures.
- Remove the protective caps for the winter, but there is a danger that the element will quickly become clogged with dust and dirt.
- Treat with protective liquid.
Often drivers replace their original limit switch with a part from another manufacturer or install a boot. In this case, the body of the new element is inserted into the standard connector and secured with a self-tapping screw.
How to extend service life
Craftsmen are constantly coming up with new ways to extend the service life of factory elements. Some people put coins under the rubber band, fasten the parts with tape, or insert washers. To prevent the switch from freezing or becoming deformed, there are several effective techniques to consider:
- Spring insert.
- Replacing standard caps with elements from foreign manufacturers.
- Silicone Grease.
You should not assume that these actions will grant immortality to the limit switch, but these measures will significantly increase its service life.
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Solving problems with door limit switches on Lada Vesta, Granta and Kalina 2
With the onset of frost, some drivers face some problems. For example, the light in the cabin does not light up when the door is opened, the alarm system does not work correctly, etc. The cause of these malfunctions is the door limit switches. Let's look at several ways you can modify them yourself.
Question to AVTOVAZ: How to solve the incorrect operation of limit switches, which become dull in the cold, and the time frame for elimination?
Answer: According to test results at temperatures up to - 30°C, there are no changes in functioning. At temperatures down to -40°C, switching on may occur with a slight delay.
Lada Vesta, Granta and Kalina 2 cars use the same type of door switches. At sub-zero temperatures, their rubber boots (protective rubber caps 11190-3710206-00) freeze and lose their elasticity. As a result, the limit switch rod cannot come out of the housing and the car’s electronic systems believe that the door is closed. Here are some ways to solve the problem:
1. Remove the anthers from the door ends.
No rubber, no problem. But it is worth remembering that the rubber cap is designed to protect the end switch from moisture and dirt. On the other hand, you can remove the anthers only for a short time, while it is frosty outside, and during this period, keep them clean.
2. Replace the limit switch anthers with an analogue one.
It is proposed to install protective caps from another end switch, for example, Toprun (catalog number 104035756, price 50-100 rubles/piece). This end cap is a copy of the original one, but its anthers are made of a material that does not lose elasticity in cold weather. There is no point in changing the limit switches themselves; it is enough to change only the rubber caps.
3. Install the spring under the limit switch boot.
Another budget option for solving the problem, especially when you have springs about 18 mm long and 12-13 mm in diameter at hand. We install them under the rubber caps on the limit switch rod. Now the spring will not allow the boot to remain in a compressed position all the time.
Have you encountered similar problems? How was it solved?
4. Install new type limit switch caps.
From 09/25/2020 On cars of the Lada Vesta family, new caps for limit and door switches began to be installed from the factory.
The product is distinguished by a higher quality, elastic material that is not afraid of even the most severe frosts.
Let us remind you that in order to protect doorways from dirt, it is recommended to install additional door seals (instructions for Vesta, Kalina/Grant). By the way, Vest owners can connect the heated windshield to an additional alarm channel.
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Review of Manufacturer Prices
| Name/article | Price, rub.) |
| Limit switch with cap 1118-3710199 | from 160 |
| 11190-3710200 | —/— |
| Rubber cap 11190-371020600 | from 35 |
| 104035756 | from 175 |
| Dello 3094705636N0 | —/— |
| Hans Pries 104035756 | —/— |
| 11190-371020000 | —/— |
*prices are current as of 10/07/18.
The service life of factory rubber caps is limited, only 1.5 - 2 years. The reason lies in the low quality of materials. In winter, drivers often encounter freezing of the limit switch and hardening of the rubber cap. As a result, lighting activation is delayed. The central lock often blocks the doors due to unstable operation of the limit switch. There are several ways to troubleshoot the problem, which we will discuss below.
Installation of door limit switches for Lada Granta and Lada Kalina
In some configurations of Lada Granta/Kalina cars, only one limit switch (switch) is installed on the driver's door from the factory. In some cases (for example, when installing an alarm system), it may be necessary to have limit switches in the rear doors and the front passenger door. You can install them yourself in several ways.
There are two options for installing door limit switches:
- Install separate limit switches in the door sills on the body.
- The limit switches are already installed in the door locks, they just need to be connected.
Installation of Renault Logan alarm, Renault Logan connection points - StarLine
The remaining connection points are located according to the same principle. Their such dislocation makes it possible to make the process of protecting a vehicle productive and invisible. To connect the door and trunk limit switches to the security system, it is necessary to lay out the wiring correctly and discreetly.
This must be done using additional rubber plastic tubes and high-quality insulating tape.
The central locking is located deep and wiring to it will be difficult. You can’t rush in this matter so that everything is accurate and of high quality.
Method No. 1 (separate limit switches)
Required
: limit switches (article 104 035 756 or 1119-3710200), 4 meters of wire.
- Stretch the wires from the driver's limit switch to the other limit switches in the sills.
- Remove the plugs in the thresholds and install limit switches instead.
- Connect the limit switches parallel to the driver's door limit switch (you can have one wire to ground, the other to the driver's door limit switch).
The rubber bands of the end switches can harden in the cold (see modification of the end switches).
Method No. 2 (limit switches in locks)
Required
: 4 meters of wire, terminals from the ISO connector of the radio, remove the door trims.
- Remove the block by pressing on the plate.
- Open the plug on the connector.
- Insert the terminals into pins 1 and 3 until they click.
- Remove the block, pull the fungus down.
- Open the plug on the connector.
- Insert the terminals into contacts 1 and 4 (or 4 and 6 depending on the configuration and year of manufacture of the vehicle) until it clicks.
We connect the limit switches parallel to the driver's door limit switch (you can have one wire to ground, the other to the driver's door limit switch).
If you cannot disconnect the connector without removing the lock:
- Remove three bolts securing the lock and one bolt securing the glass guide.
- Remove the door handle and door lock button.
- Disconnect the rods and remove the lock.
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Programming the duration of control pulses
Even if the alarm is connected correctly, it is not a fact that the owner will be able to control the locks from the key fob. The point is that it is necessary to correctly select the duration of the control pulse (for locking and for opening). There is no need to make it too large so as not to overheat the actuators.
See what exactly the manufacturer Starline offers. We can set the pulse duration to 0.7 s, which should be enough. The value “3.6” will be redundant at the same time.
The “Lux” package has the following property: after 15 minutes of inactivity, the electronics “fall asleep”. It may take an extra boost to wake her up. So, try to use the option that provides for a double pulse. The main thing is not to activate the “comfort” option, which uses a 30-second duration. To connect the signaling with “comfort”, you need to install an additional unit in Grants (AvtoVAZ does not produce it). We wish you success.
