How to change hinges on the doors of a VAZ 2109

Removing a door on a VAZ 2109 car

The doors of a VAZ 2109 car are like the doors of a house. They should always be easy to close and open, beautiful and reliable. A sagging, warped door looks very unsightly and is difficult to open. In addition, it can make a creaking noise, and puddles will form in the cabin when it rains. The defect can be eliminated by replacing the door hinges of the VAZ 2109. The article presents the stages of work to eliminate sagging doors with your own hands.

When do you need to replace VAZ 2109 door hinges?

Removing a door on a VAZ 2109 car
The doors of a VAZ 2109 car are like the doors of a house. They should always be easy to close and open, beautiful and reliable. A sagging, warped door looks very unsightly and is difficult to open. In addition, it can make a creaking noise, and puddles will form in the cabin when it rains. The defect can be eliminated by replacing the door hinges of the VAZ 2109. The article presents the stages of work to eliminate sagging doors with your own hands.

Popularity of VAZ cars

In addition, the production produces vehicle kits for assembling Lada cars, as well as their modifications, based on orders from other manufacturers. The main branch and production facilities of the company are still located in Tolyatti.

Many cars produced by the automaker became a real hit of the Soviet automobile industry. For example, such a powerful version of the Zhiguli as the VAZ-2103 became one of the most prestigious cars in the USSR. And the VAZ Niva generally became a sensation in the global automobile market.

However, despite the numerous advantages of VAZ cars, these cars also break down. Especially when you consider that people still use cars of this brand that were produced decades ago. And, apparently, for a long time they will overcome the numerous potholes and holes of their native roads.

Possible malfunctions of brands of this company, in principle, correspond to similar problems of other cars. And we will be happy to offer you car repair work for such brands of the VAZ automobile concern as

2101,
2103,
2102,
2106,
2107,
and other models of both Soviet and modern production (for example, Lada Kalina, Lada Priora, etc.).

Door hinge repair options

Failure or severely deformed hinges are repaired using the following methods:

Complete door replacement. It is complicated by the fact that it is not always possible to find new VAZs for old ones. You have to buy old elements that are partially worn out.

Replacing door hinges, as well as fingers, is the most rational option in this case. It's inexpensive and relatively easy to do. If necessary, additional equipment can always be rented at a service center or automotive supply store. The cost of the hinges themselves for the VAZ 2110 and similar models is only about 300-500 rubles. You can also find old, used ones for sale. You will have to pay less for them. But new VAZ 2110 doors will cost several thousand rubles. And they are sold, as a rule, without glass and cladding. Their installation is an additional waste of money.

Replacing fingers in loops

So, if the repair involves only replacing the fingers, then you will need to first remove the door to gain access to the hinges (3-4 fasteners are simply unscrewed, depending on the model). Then the fingers are knocked out. If they do not come out due to corrosion or deformation, then you should first carefully fill everything with WD-40 to remove the rust and repeat the operation. If this fails, you will have to drill out the fingers or completely replace the hinges.

When installing new pins, they are sure to be lubricated with grease or oil, and after installation, the door is adjusted (lowered or raised a few mm through a tightening rod). The door must literally fall into the grip when closing without additional physical effort. Otherwise, the wear and tear on both doors and hinges will be much higher. After 1-2 years of such operation, the door and hinges will have to be completely replaced.

The main difficulty in repairing VAZ door hinges is to correctly knock out the pins (the same fingers). It’s most convenient to just rivet it, then straighten the loop if necessary. The neatest way is to drill out each end of the finger, after which its edges are ground off or simply squeezed. The drill is taken small right away, and then grows evenly almost by millimeter. This will take quite a lot of time, but the loop will not be damaged.

If the finger has other deformations, it may be necessary to make a through hole through the pins. In the future, this will not interfere with the use of the new fingers. For this purpose, you will need either an impact screwdriver or a powerful drill with a high-quality drill (carbon steel is an excellent option).

Video: Replacing Door Pins VAZ 2109

The main difficulty in repairing VAZ door hinges. correctly knock out the pins (the fingers themselves). It is most convenient to simply rivet and then straighten the loop if necessary. The most aesthetically pleasing method is to drill each end of the finger and then press the edges together or simply press them together. The drill is immediately reduced to a minimum, then gradually increases in millimeters. It will take a long time, but the loop will not be damaged.

If the pin has other deformities, it may be necessary to make a through hole through the pins. In the future, this will not interfere with the work of new fingers. To do this, you will need either an impact driver or a powerful drill with a quality drill bit (carbon steel is ideal).

Replacing the entire cycle

If the door is hanging, the likely cause is deformation or mechanical damage to the hinges. Fixed replacing them completely with fingers. You don't need to buy them yourself if you have a metal machine. Such repairs will be cheap. you only have to pay to buy quality metal plates.

It is recommended to cut the loops strictly along the edges of their wedges. I put my fingers last. Again, they should be lubricated, plugged, and plugged as recommended by the manufacturer. Replacing them without making them (if done yourself) will take several hours of strength along with removing and reinstalling the door. All that remains is to configure it. And you should understand that the noose may fall in the next few days. This is a reduction. Doors may creak and do not always close properly. Adjust if necessary.

Final door adjustment

Adjusting the door after replacing pins or hinges. this is the alignment of the normal locking level to accurately close the handle. If you are planning to replace them, it is better to pay attention to the so-called silent locks. They cost a little more, but do not allow you to put on the closure mechanism as quickly. Once installed, you can choose any level. They work on the principle of a classic latch. At the moment of closing, they do not create additional resistance, so the doors close even with a slight push. The lock cannot be opened while moving.

When installing hinges or fingers, it is necessary to check the level of the building to see if the VAZ door is installed correctly.

If so, you can continue with the setup. This is best done using a latch. Everything is quite simple with him. we carry it a little higher and towards the salon. This can be done over a few millimeters until the locking force is minimal.

Before you replace pins or hinges, you need to determine exactly what is causing the door to sag. This may be easy to set up, or may require a complete hardware replacement.

Removal: 1) First, disconnect the door stop from the car body, to do this:

Option one:

1. First, remove the two bolts that secure the door stop to the body.

2. And then disconnect the limiter.

Option two:

1. Using a rod with a diameter of about 5 mm and a hammer, knock out the door stop axis.

2. And then remove the axle from the limiter.

Continuation! 1) Next, have another person hold the door, and then, using an extension socket, remove both bolts that secure the door hinges to the car body.

2) And to complete the operation, remove the door from the car.

Installation: 1) First install the door in place.

2) And then tightly tighten all the bolts that secure the door hinges to the car body.

3) And then screw in the reverse order of removal, or both bolts securing the limiter to the door.

4) Or install the axle in its place.

Important! Before you start removing the door, check if any electrical equipment is connected to it; if it is connected, then before you start removing the door, disconnect all the wires!

Replacing the entire hinge

If the door is sagging, then the likely cause is deformation or mechanical wear of the hinges. It is corrected by completely replacing them, along with the fingers. You don't have to buy them. You can make it yourself if you have a metal cutting machine. Such repairs will be cheap - you will only have to pay for the purchase of high-quality metal plates.

It is recommended to cut the loops strictly along the boundaries of their wedging. Fingers are placed last. And again, you need to lubricate them, hammer them, and lock them, as the manufacturer himself recommends. Replacement without taking into account their manufacture (if you do it yourself) will take at most several hours, including removing and reinstalling the doors. All that remains is to make the adjustment. And you should understand that in the next few days the noose may fall. This is shrinkage. The door may creak and may not always slam shut normally. If necessary, readjustment is performed.

Installing new hinges

When the tools are prepared, you can begin installing the mortise canopies:

Make markings. Retreat 20-25 cm from the top and bottom edges of the door leaf.
Attach loops and trace along the outline with a pencil.
Using a chisel and hammer, make indentations along the contour so that it is not too deep (the depth should match the thickness of the loop). If the recess is thicker than the hinge, the door will rest against the frame when closing. Over time, this will cause problems with closing and opening and deform the canvas.
Secure the door in the opening using wooden wedges. Level in horizontal and vertical planes. If you miss the vertical alignment, the door will open on its own. If the structure is installed crookedly horizontally, it will be difficult to close, if at all.
Mark the areas where the hinges touch the door frame, make indentations as on the canvas.
Secure the fittings with self-tapping screws, having previously drilled holes for them.

How to straighten car doors

The “old-fashioned” method is to fight sagging with your own hands. In other words, we take our hands by the back of the door, where the lock is, not the hinges, and lift it up. The door should be slightly open so that you can comfortably grasp it with your hands. At first we put in a little effort and look at the result. If this is not enough, then we increase the effort according to the situation. If there is no effect at all, then try to lift the door a little at first (it will rise along with the body), and then sharply pull it upward.

The same method can be applied using a jack. The door should also be slightly open. We place a jack under the edge of the door through a block so as not to bend the door. We lift the door in the same way, at first slightly, if this is not enough, we increase the force.

Typically, such methods solve the problem of sagging doors, but for a certain time. After such a bending of the door, sooner or later it will still return to its original sagging state. The most reliable method is to lay plates of a certain thickness:

Adjusting the front or rear door

Setting up door cards is carried out in several stages. Experienced drivers take a comprehensive approach; they check gaps, re-adjust hinges, and inspect the locking and manual mechanism. There are several options for customizing the doors:

Use a wrench to loosen the internal hinge screws. Tapping with a hammer is carried out so that the structure moves to the desired position. Then the fasteners are tightened back.
To even out the gap, the hinge mechanism is also loosened in two places: top and bottom. The door needs to be raised/lowered by adjusting the height.
The curvature of the metal can only be corrected by straightening.
Adjusting the lock involves loosening the latch, then moving it up/down.
The handle is being disassembled. If the internal screws are deformed, they are replaced.

When the door is in the correct position, the mounting bolts are tightened with a wrench. Then the functionality of the device is checked again.

The door in the square sagged

The problem of sagging doors sooner or later arises in any car. Naturally, this situation occurs more often on cheap cars, but this does not make it any easier for the owner. What can you create with a sagging door?

The sagging of the door in the frame is first expressed in its difficult closing. After all, being below the industrial position, the door can no longer fully enter its own opening. Because of this, you have to make an effort to close it, and the sound leaves much to be desired. The result is accelerated wear of the locks and even greater breaking of the hinges.

Prerequisites for sagging doors in a frame

There are two circumstances: very weak hinges and a very heavy door.

Weak hinges are factory problems and usually mean an unthought-out system of hinges that simply cannot support the weight of the door. Weak hinges develop very quickly and very quickly, free movement occurs and, as a result, the open door moves down a few mm.

The second task is usually done by the car owners themselves. A large amount of heavy vibration insulation

, install a powerful speaker, and in addition to this a wonderful podium weighing half a kilogram. All this adds additional weight to the door, for which the hinges may not be designed...

But you can’t drive without music and with the door humming from vibration?! Here convenience obviously outweighs the looming problem with loops. Moreover, it is not so difficult to cope with sagging doors.

How to remove sagging doors in a frame

Absolutely, if the door hinges have exhausted their service life, they need to be changed. But you can do it even simpler! To do this, you need to slip a washer of suitable diameter under the bottom hinge of the sagging door. The diameter of this washer should be such that the hinge fastening bolt passes through it, and the thickness allows the door to be straightened in the clearance.

The point of this washer is that it creates additional space between the body pillar and the hinge, thereby lifting the door. By selecting the best washer thickness, you can return the door to its perfect factory position.

Before installing a washer under the hinge, it is necessary to loosen the fastening bolts on all hinges of the sagging door. This is not easy to do, because these bolts are tightened very firmly and not with an ordinary screwdriver, but with an impact screwdriver. How to use an impact screwdriver

. The bolts securing the upper hinge (or the hinge, if there are several of them) just need to be loosened, and the bolt on the lower hinge must be completely unscrewed. With all this, it is better to hold the door well so that there is no unnecessary overload on the upper hinges. It is necessary to slip a washer under the unscrewed bolt of the lower hinge.

Next, you need to adjust the door in the clearance, lightly tightening all the bolts and quietly closing it. Once the door begins to lock perfectly, simply and without noise unusual for a car of a certain model, the repair can be considered a success. Then you need to completely tighten all the bolts with an impact screwdriver and forget about the once sagging door, in other words, drive and rejoice.

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Reasons for sagging doors

Several reasons play a role in the reliability of door fixation and the absence of sagging:

Extensive wear on hinges and axles. The door of the vases began to close poorly, and opened with considerable effort. A metal squeak that appears when the vehicle moves on an uneven road is indicated by loosening of the door fastening. Failure to match the door fixing elements is accompanied by distortion of the hinges and the formation of cracks in the door body. This leads to uneven gaps, which contributes to the appearance of water in the cabin after rain. The door sagged after being hit in an accident. The doors were installed or adjusted incorrectly.

How to remove sagging doors

Advice: Before starting work, it is necessary to establish the cause of the sagging.

VAZ 2108 hinge repair

A small test may help with this:

You need to grasp the bottom of the door with both hands. Then they need to be easily loosened and the presence of a gap in the vertical plane determined. There is no play allowed in the VAZ 2109 door hinge. The door is grasped with your hands from above and below and turned along the horizontal axis, moving the door is not allowed, there should be no gap. The place where the door hinges are fixed to the body of the VAZ 2109 is visually inspected and the hinges of the serviceable and sagging doors are compared, the differences in them are determined and a conclusion is made.

After researching and finding out the causes of the sagging, repairs can begin.

In this case it is necessary:

If the door sagging is due to increased wear on the hinge axis, then it is better to replace this element. Replacing the entire hinge assembly for a VAZ 2109 door is required if there are signs of wear or tear in the entire mechanism, then the cost of repair will be significantly less than when installing several new, heavily worn parts at once.

Operations to replace failed parts must be completed by adjusting the correct position of the door.

Tip: You can make it easier to adjust the position of the door after removing its counterpart.

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Causes of lock failures on VAZ 2109

There may be several such reasons. Here is a “rating” of the most common reasons for replacing a lock.
“Downfall” of the latch connecting the door lock to the rod that connects it to the central lock.
Lost key.
Damage to the locking mechanism itself - the cylinder in the car. On the VAZ 21093, the front door lock is designed in such a way that it is almost impossible to repair them. That is, if a lock cylinder breaks, it is better to immediately replace it with a new one. Thus, you will save time and your nerves. Moreover, its price is quite reasonable.
Wire refraction.

Hinges for VAZ 2108

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Post edited by Volodko: 08 May 2010 - 07:17

#9 devil1208

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The doors sag because there is wear inside the canopy itself, where the cotter pin is inserted; here, if the sagging is not too much, a backing of washers will help, and if it is too much, then only overcooking the hinges.

And if the car is new, in order to extend the life of the pins, you need to lubricate them more often and do not keep the door open for a long time and completely close it!

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The VDshka corrodes the metal..(this does not mean spray it and there will be a hole, that’s all over time). and I would recommend using it only for difficult-to-unscrew bolts, nuts, etc.

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And if the car is new, in order to extend the life of the pins, you need to lubricate them more often and do not keep the door open for a long time and completely close it!

If you don't believe me, read the instructions. it wasn’t written by fools, if you lubricate the hinges they won’t sag

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like this. there is kerosene, kerosene has the best penetration, but it does not affect metal in any way, find kerosene lamps from your grandmothers. 50-year-old lamps with kerosene and nothing. Doesn't the bushing itself change?

changes, but what's the use of the hinges, or wear and tear, and if you hammer it thicker, the door won't open)) so the hinges are sagging, the washers are bullshit (gaps, "jumping" doors, creaks..)

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1 Thread from Hranitel 2008-11-23 20:17:11

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Topic: The door is sagging =((

I bought the car a couple of weeks ago, I’m starting to eliminate the shortcomings after the previous owners, but the problem appeared in all its beauty after installing silent locks - sagging doors, due to the fact that the forum is moving, and the topic has not yet been uploaded, and the desire to remove the problem just burns more and more every day day, can anyone give me a hint on how to deal with this sore? =)) I have an idea to do something drastic - install lambo doors, I have already printed out the drawings, they seem to fit: rolleyes I would like to hear from experienced people ideas on both options, how many, how and where?= )))

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Re: Door sagging =((

The pins in the hinges need to be knocked out and replaced. But when I did this on my friend’s 99, I had to use an autogen to heat the loop, because... the pin there has turned sour, which is not a pleasant experience. At the moment, the door on my eight is also sagging, I don’t want to change it.

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Re: Door sagging =((

I saw the third hinge being welded to the doors.

regarding lambo gates: if your arms are not an extension of the hip joint, then try it. is quite interesting.

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Re: Door sagging =((

I saw the third hinge being welded to the doors.

regarding lambo gates: if your arms are not an extension of the hip joint, then try it. is quite interesting.

At least they don't sag? laugh

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Re: Door sagging =((

you buy hinges and run to the tinsmiths, they will digest them, everything will be ok.

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Re: Door sagging =((

You remove the door, on the back side of the hinge in the middle part, cut the hinge with a grinder, pick out the remains of the stem, take an old valve, cut it to the height as necessary, insert it into the space of the axle, weld the slot from the grinder, and place the door on the space. A friend and I did this in my car. Half a year has already passed and there is no play. In this case, only the bottom loop was changed.

+1 and still going through.

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Re: Door sagging =((

what valve? from 8v or 16v, but I realized that from 8ve))) thanks for the help

8 Reply from Driver 2008-12-24 20:11:49 (2008-12-24 20:12:52 edited by Driver)

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what valve? from 8v or 16v, but I realized that from 8ve))) thanks for the help

Yes, any one with a diameter of 8 mm.

Ton87, you and I needed to create a photo report of replacing the hinge rod)

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Front door of VAZ 2109

In this article we will tell you how to remove or install the door, replace the window regulator, the driver's or passenger's side window of the front door, the door opener lock and the outside rear view mirror on a VAZ 2109

Replacing the front door of a VAZ 2109

Open the door and unscrew the two bolts securing the limiter bracket to the A-pillar

Unscrew the bolts securing the upper and lower door hinges to the A-pillar and remove the door

Installing the front door on a VAZ 2109 is performed in the reverse order of removal. Before final tightening the bolts securing the hinges to the A-pillar, close the door and adjust its position so that the gaps in the openings around the entire perimeter are the same. Then carefully open the door and finally tighten the hinge bolts.

Removing and installing the front door trim of a VAZ 2109

Insert a thin screwdriver between the socket and the window handle trim. Press the socket with a screwdriver and move the trim so that the protrusion on it (see note) disengages from the socket

Remove the trim of the VAZ 2109 window lifter handle

Remove the window handle

Using a thin screwdriver, remove the two plugs from the armrest handle

Unscrew the two fastening screws and remove the armrest handle

Unscrew the two screws securing the door pocket of the VAZ 2109

Unscrew the door lock button

Using a thin screwdriver, press and disengage the socket latch of the inner door lock handle